roosterMAP's Rubble Library

roosterMAP · Feb 2011

Hey, guys. Im currently working on a rubble library for UDK. The idea is to get the most diverse rubble pack possible, and to train myslef to produce realistic organic models. In addition, once I feel the pack is finished or whenever I get burnt out, I'm planning on open sourcing the entire thing. Just a little gift for the community that has given me so much.

Here's what I have so far...

Rico · Feb 2011

You did an awesome job on these, rooster!

Keep it up, man!

Stromberg90 · Feb 2011

Looks sweet, think this will be very appreciated if you release it.

You are right about that you can quickly burn out, have done that some times before myself, when i thought of doing model packs, but even if you do you already have a few models

I hope you don't burn out tough, would love to have a pack like this in udk

Axios · Feb 2011

These look fantastic. What's the texture res and number of maps currently?

ES_139 · Feb 2011

looking great, would love to see wires/maps tri count etc

sltrOlsson · Feb 2011

Nice shitzel! Can you tell us about you workflow? Pretty please?

Always cool to see how other people approach stuff..

jordan.kocon · Feb 2011

Those look wicked! I'm currently working on a scene with a lot of cement rubble and your style is exactly what I want. Any chance you could share your work flow or what alphas you used?

roosterMAP · Feb 2011

I'll be sure to release one of the HP models so you can dissect how I did it.
This was all done in 3ds max procedurally. I used mostly noise and displacement modifiers to make these, and then used polygon cruncher (which I highly recommend everyone buys), to make the low poly.

Many of these models share the same texture map, so I think I was pretty efficient in the texturing department. But, then again, if they are too high rez, you could just make them smaller...

I also forgot to mention, I also have a "broken-concrete" decals pack finished. Sometimes it looks amasing... other times not so much. Have a look:

d1ver · Feb 2011

wow. those decals are really great! as are the models

roosterMAP wrote: »

The idea is to get the most diverse rubble pack possible

I think that those models are more then enough of single concrete pieces for most scenes.
If you're using UDK you might consider doing some sort of a smart-ass material that blends in different kinds of textures through vertex painting. Like random paint lines, moss and dirt. This will greatly help increase reusability and really make for the most diverse rubbles ever.

roosterMAP · Feb 2011

i'll look into it. Is there some sort of randomizer node in the UDK material editor?

Im looking to have a procedural material that will slightly change the look of the object every time I make a new instance of the static mesh. Is that possible?

WillMac · Feb 2011

Good work. These are quality, no crits.

aphexx · Feb 2011

nice rubble man! how about some rebars?

d1ver · Feb 2011

roosterMAP wrote: »

i'll look into it. Is there some sort of randomizer node in the UDK material editor?

Im looking to have a procedural material that will slightly change the look of the object every time I make a new instance of the static mesh. Is that possible?

Not that I know of. I think impossible for the same material to look different on objects and that makes sense when you think about it.

Unless of course there's some vertex painting involved, which I think is your best bet.
Like in the second video over here:
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80907

You might also want to check out here:
http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/MeshPaintReference.html

and here:
http://www.3dmotive.com/product-udk-mesh-paint

Axios · Feb 2011

You certainly could do some up vector based blending so chunks look different according to orientation.

Joshflighter · Feb 2011

Great work Rooster!

tharle · Feb 2011

you could add a dirt texture that was controlled by the object world position meaning that each of the instances would have a slightly different texture. probably better off using vertex painting if you want more control though. also as aphexx says, you really need some steel bars coming out of the side of your broken concrete beams and slabs. basically unreinforced concrete is only used for foundations so they'd all need a bit of steel sticking out. (if you want to be really accurate i can probably give you rough sizes and spacing based on the thickness of concrete :P)

roosterMAP · Feb 2011

Alright, next ones I do will have rebar.

d1ver · Feb 2011

tharle wrote: »

you could add a dirt texture that was controlled by the object world position ...

that's a great idea. I've never thought about it. Thank you very much for correcting me. I'll have to look into that sometime.

Rockley Bonner · Feb 2011

I approve .

paulsvoboda · Feb 2011

Great job on these Rooster - the decal especially looks nice.

tharle · Feb 2011

d1ver wrote: »

that's a great idea. I've never thought about it. Thank you very much for correcting me. I'll have to look into that sometime.

can't take full credit i'm afraid. had the idea it would be possible then got the details from this tutorial:

http://www.chrisalbeluhn.com/UDK_Asset_Position_Offsets_Texturet_Tutorial.html

works pretty well for modular pieces though

aphexx · Feb 2011

gr8 link tharle thank you!

roosterMAP · Mar 2011

Update: I made a more complex material for the last blocks of concrete. I also made a few extra pillars and decals.

But the main thing I wanna show you guys are my modular road assets. The biggest one is 1,200 tri's, so its pretty well optimized. All of them use the same 1024x1024 texture. The models tile PERFECTLY in UDK (but the snapping aint so great). What u guys think?

sltrOlsson · Mar 2011

You should add pices that's "untouched" to, for the tiles. Looks delicious!

And oh, can we see some texture sheets? The "broken" part really interests me!

aphexx · Mar 2011

looks nice! colors come cool, you could get problem with texture tiling artefacts. but then again use the detail texture technique mentioned earlier in this thread.
anyway this seems to be some kind of bridge or motorway above ground? in this case, how about the sidewalk or side walls?

Makkon · Mar 2011

Looks good! But my only concern is how tight the lanes are, I'd be terrified to drive on them if they were in perfect condition. I'm not sure what the scale would be compared to a car for those, but judging by the painted lines I'm guessing they're pretty small. I'd just think for a bridge or general road you'd have more lanes, and wider lanes. And road shoulders, that's very important.

roosterMAP · Mar 2011

Well, these are just two lanes. In a normal highway or overpass, you would have two or three of these side by side.

Also, there will be railing to prevent you from flying off the edge.

Sinking · Jul 2013

What happened to:

" In addition, once I feel the pack is finished or whenever I get burnt out, I'm planning on open sourcing the entire thing. Just a little gift for the community that has given me so much. "

and that:

"Alright, next ones I do will have rebar."

or this:

" And oh, can we see some texture sheets? The "broken" part really interests me!"

Guess you found a job, huh

roosterMAP's Rubble Library

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