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  • allaze-eroler
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    allaze-eroler polycounter lvl 11
    J-kid wrote: »

    one good advice : don't buy these computer, better buy a custom computer since they're far cheaper than these computer you did posted here, i had that similar experience some years ago ^^;
  • J-kid
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    J-kid polycounter lvl 12
    one good advice : don't buy these computer, better buy a custom computer since they're far cheaper than these computer you did posted here, i had that similar experience some years ago ^^;

    I really wouldn't have a clue on what to buy I would need loads of help on that
  • allaze-eroler
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    allaze-eroler polycounter lvl 11
    yes, that is true, you need some help for to get good computer, all i can tell you is to get a good graphic card that can handle nowaday games like batman arkham city or still deus ex human revolution, also, think to buy more memory ram like 8 or 16 gb but generally, 4gb is enough for to work with zbrush or 3ds max 2012. also, make sure to choice an intel precessor for some reason because it work better with software like zbrush or 3ds max.

    once you deciced with these composants, you can go to one specialised shop that sell only custom computers.
  • Pola
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    Pola polycounter lvl 6
    i5 2500k Is a pretty good intel cpu to get for price/performance. With 3D work its normally always best to go with Nvidia cards, I'm getting a 560 Ti soon. For ram get at least 4GB Its best to get the ram as a 4GB stick so that you can add additional ones later if you feel you need more ram, You'll be wanting DDR3.

    A good motherboard is the only other part I think you need to worry about, I haven't built an intel system yet so can't reccomend a specific board, should probably be around the 200USD+ price point though. A small SSD drive could be a nice addition with some bigger hard drive for storage. Also try to get a power supply at 500-600W+ especially if you get a more expensive nvidia card then 560 Ti.
  • Rageleet
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    Rageleet polycounter lvl 6
    Hey, iv got like 6 years experience in building PC's i wouldn't go for a prebuilt computer, unless u really have no other options most of them are pretty poop check overclock.net, theres loads of info there about building ur own system (y). half the time price lower aswell. :)
  • J-kid
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    J-kid polycounter lvl 12
    Thanks guys but I haven't really seen any computer shops that would be able to build the PC for me
  • mdeforge
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    mdeforge polycounter lvl 14
    J-kid, that's what Newegg.com is for. They have great prices and a great selection. Most local shops are more expensive, unless you happen to have a Micro Center or equivalent near you.

    PS: Judging by your responses, maybe it's best you don't... assembling one doesn't require a ton of knowledge, but you don't seem to have much at all (no offense). Try and find someone, a friend of family member, to help you assemble one. Maybe even look for ads at your local hardware store (they usually pin them up on the wall) for anyone selling custom computers. Just ideas.
  • J-kid
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    J-kid polycounter lvl 12
    Stradigos wrote: »
    J-kid, that's what Newegg.com is for. They have great prices and a great selection. Most local shops are more expensive, unless you happen to have a Micro Center or equivalent near you.

    PS: Judging by your responses, maybe it's best you don't... assembling one doesn't require a ton of knowledge, but you don't seem to have much at all (no offense). Try and find someone, a friend of family member, to help you assemble one. Maybe even look for ads at your local hardware store (they usually pin them up on the wall) for anyone selling custom computers. Just ideas.

    So you think it's best I don't build a computer or buy one from the shop and no offence taken I really know fuck all about computers
  • Kbrom12
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    Kbrom12 polycounter lvl 8
    www.ibuypower.com

    My computer along with my girlfriends and a few of my friends are from there, not one of us have had a problem and we all got beasts of machines.
  • EarthQuake
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    Pola wrote: »
    i5 2500k Is a pretty good intel cpu to get for price/performance. With 3D work its normally always best to go with Nvidia cards, I'm getting a 560 Ti soon. For ram get at least 4GB Its best to get the ram as a 4GB stick so that you can add additional ones later if you feel you need more ram, You'll be wanting DDR3.

    A good motherboard is the only other part I think you need to worry about, I haven't built an intel system yet so can't reccomend a specific board, should probably be around the 200USD+ price point though. A small SSD drive could be a nice addition with some bigger hard drive for storage. Also try to get a power supply at 500-600W+ especially if you get a more expensive nvidia card then 560 Ti.

    If you're only getting 4gb, you need to get 2x2gb sticks for dual channel. I wouldn't suggest less than 8GB though, ram is dirt cheap. So 4x4gb min. I would say.

    But yeah,
    Intel 2500
    Nvidia 460/560
    8 gigs ram
    120-ish GB SSD
    1TB is HDD
    Some normal, reasonably priced mATX or standard ATX motherboard, skip SLI crap and countless extra ports if you can, you wont need it.
    A reasonable case, $50-100 - dont spend more or less. Try to find something well built, but not super heavy. A lot of the cases people often recommend in these threads are 20+ lbs, so keep that in mind.
    450-600W 80+ efficiency non-generic power supply- Do not waste your money on a 700-1000W PSU, get a modular PSU if you want to spend a little more money
  • cptSwing
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    cptSwing polycounter lvl 11
    I've been running an AMD Phenom 6 core 1100, 16 gb Ram, 120 GB SSD and a Nvidia 570 GTX selfbuilt for about half a year now, and it cost me maybe 700 Euros (with mobo/couple of other gadgets). Runs everything real sweet-like.
    Build it yourself man.
  • MikeF
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    MikeF polycounter lvl 19
    Is there a big difference between AMD and Intel nowadays? i had a bad experience with amd a couple builds ago and i've gone with intel since, however being cash strapped AMD looks pretty nice rite about now
  • cptSwing
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    cptSwing polycounter lvl 11
    it`s very good performance for the money, the top of the line i7`s will probably blow it away though ;)
    also, other than for rendering, it`s debatable whether you need 6 cores.

    whichever way you go, get an nvidia, most programs we need run lots better on them.
  • EarthQuake
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    IMO Intel is just more stable, but I haven't used an AMD CPU in a while. I used to be a big AMD fan, but have had too many troubles with my own builds, and AMD workstations, so I stick with intel these days.

    Generally, you get what you pay for.
  • Mike Yevin
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    Mike Yevin polycounter lvl 11
    i couldnt be happier with my intel/nvidia build. i got everything from newegg and got a smokin deal. i5 2500k is your best bet for price/performance, the only real difference with the i7 is multithreading. while that is good for our line of work, it wasn't worth the 100 bucks more they are charging.

    also, just as a side note, im easily running my i5 at 3.6 ghz (3.3 is stock) and all i have is an aftermarket cpu fan.


    if your worried about building a pc yourself for the first time, just follow neweggs "how to build a pc" series on youtube:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls&feature=relmfu[/ame]
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok&feature=relmfu[/ame]

    i had never built one myself until the rig im on now, and those videos will explain everything you need to know; definitely recommended
  • J-kid
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    J-kid polycounter lvl 12
    Thanks guys for the help and advice, got a little problem though my mother won't let me get a custom computer *sigh*
  • Nysuatro
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    These are great videos. Thx mike
  • devingeesr
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    devingeesr polycounter lvl 13
    What about monitors? would you recommend getting two or one? and what size?
  • EarthQuake
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    devingeesr wrote: »
    What about monitors? would you recommend getting two or one? and what size?

    A. I would make sure to get a good sized monitor, say 23" or 24", with a high quality panel. This means m/pva, IPS or e-IPS, not the cheap TN panels they use for gamer monitors with 2ms refresh rates but terrible viewing angles and color.

    B. One or two really depends on your budget and personal preference, I would probably get two 23/24" inchers before 27" or 30" display. I prefer working with two monitors, but some people like one really large monitor. Your monitors do not have to be the same either. My main screen is a dell 2408wfp 24", and my secondary is a 20" Asus.
  • cptSwing
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    cptSwing polycounter lvl 11
    once you've used 2, you'll have a hard time going back to half the screen space. will probably slap an old monitor i've got lying around here onto my desktop for a triple mon setup.. NASA!
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