I need direction on how to finish my textures

polygonfreak

I am having a difficult time trying to texture my scene. As you can see, my textures look too clean and need help. Here is what I have set up so far, the walls are set up to be modular and they have one uv texture. The floor and ceiling have a tillable texture applied. Even tho I am not a noob, when it comes to texturing and UDK, I might as well be a noob. Here is what I am thinking, please feel free to call me out and suggest a better methods. Any help would be great.

Walls: since these walls have a uv texture, creating unique features(wall paper tears, large stains, holes) in photoshop will just repeat and look goofy, So what do you guys do in this case? vertex paint? decals? or is trying to make the walls modular in this scene just not going to give me the best result?

Floor and Ceiling: I am also having the same problem with these too, I need random stains, dirt build up around the corners on the floor, maybe wear and tear underneath the table and chairs.

So please look at the scene and tell me what you might do or have done with the scene.

Thanks again.

Note: I have posted this scene in pimping and preview a few weeks back, but this scene is not pimp, so I decided to repost this again in technical talk, since its technically in need of help.

biofrost

At least for the walls I would go with learning on to do vertex painting, that way you don't have the grime repeating in the same areas.

xXm0RpH3usXx

the lighting is very unnatural!

there is no lightsource, yet it seems the area mostly lit is directly right to the tight chair?

you should add a normal map to the diffuses...
like something really noisy on the sheet
and maybe even some displyement on the floor tiles

cryrid

I don't think I've ever seen a bed/hotel room with that kind of ceiling (which looks more at place in an office).

polygonfreak

Biofrost@ I just started to looking into vertex painting... those shaders are pretty crazy tho.

xx0rph3usxx@ I have a lamp thats modeled... but forgot to place it in udk, im not worried about lighting at this point. My ceiling and floor all have a normal, spec, and diffuse maps. I just looked at the walls, and it has a quick and dirty spec map applied but no normal... I may want to throw my diffuse in crazybump.

cryrid@ I personally never been inside a 70's motel, but the reference image I have of a 70's motel, does have those office like tiles. But I agree, they look out of place.

I apreaciate all the help I can get, however, I still don't have the answer I need. Maybe I have not been clear...
This is a WIP, many of the assets have incomplete textures, my lighting in scene is just whipped together. So currently my only concern is the walls, floor, and ceiling not looking like brand new and never touched by human hands. The more I look into vertex painting, the more I think that's the answer, but I would love other peoples thoughts on how they would go about the textures for this scene.

Thanks in advance.

throttlekitty

I don't have any good suggestions for the textures, aside from that it overall looks to crisp and plain. Not sure if the darkened corners are a result of the model or your render, but they're also sharp and distracting. There's an obvious repeat in the wallpaper that I suggest fixing.

Aesthetically, the wallpaper is wonderfully atrocious and cheap, but the flooring looks expensive. (needs some shag carpet up in there) Coupled with that ceiling and (beer?) cans lazily left on the floor and table, I can't tell if this is a swanky minimalist apartment or a room to a mismanaged hotel.

I don't know your plans for this scene, but the scale of everything feels wrong, mostly the large size of the room compared to how filled it is and the chairs might be too short. I'd look at a whole bunch of references and pay attention to lighting, -not everything needs to be super-grungy to be believable. But I'm a fan of subtlety.

Vanity

The ceiling looks like my parents basement , it has ceiling panels, Atm the lighting needs work, The textures need more Variety everything is a pattern.

Vrav

Right, the entire scene here feels very noisy as there are next to no areas without detail/pattern. Certainly a unique look, but I think the details clash with each other. In my opinion, you could make something the focus: interesting floor? Intricate wall hangings / sheets? And subdue the rest, or at least have the tiling pattern at a larger size (2x2 rather than 8x8 on the floor, for example).

Ace-Angel

If you plan on keeping things super clean, you really need to get fancy with shaders to give off that each materials has it's own 'effect'.

However, as many other said, just throw in some quick dirt and grime here and there with the decal projector for now.

Kawe

Do you have any reference to go off on? Atm I don't think it's a big texture issue.. obviously it can be improved on but everything isn't cohesive and it's hard to solve that if you don't have something to use as a base/reference.

I think it'll be a lot easier for everyone to help out once they actually know what you really want to do. Sure you described some things you want to achieve but I don't think it's what you really want to do.. if it makes any sense.

polygonfreak

Thanks everyone for the advice. After sleeping on it, I figured out that I was looking at a small detail and not the scene as a whole.

Throttlekitty@ You are right about the flooring, although it is of the period, the wood flooring looks too nice for a cheap motel.

Vanity@ Now that you point it out, it does look like a pattern hell.

Vrav@ SO what you are saying is it would be more interesting to have a solid color floor to contrast with the cheesy wall paper?

Ace-angel@ I think my problem from the start has been a lack of plans. I really need to integrate more complete planning as part of my workflow.

Kawe@ I do have plenty of reference photos. For my next project I post on polycount, I am going to include those.

uncle

Be sure to post updated results Maybe taken further they will be easier to comment on.

pior

Floor and Ceiling: I am also having the same problem with these too, I need random stains, dirt build up around the corners on the floor, maybe wear and tear underneath the table and chairs.

Actually no, you don't necessarily need that. What you need is a solid reference to work from.

http://www.shanghaibuildingmaterial.com/uploads/2009/07/double3rdtry.jpg
http://www.dimensionsguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Hotel-Room.jpg
http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/1ds-4/sidi-driss-hotel-room.jpg
http://www.fopple.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/luxury-modern-room-design-black-and-white-color.jpg
http://www.arkivatropika.com/images/pictures/70_large.JPG

Easy as pie!

r_fletch_r

pior wrote: »

Actually no, you don't necessarily need that. What you need is a solid reference to work from.

http://www.shanghaibuildingmaterial.com/uploads/2009/07/double3rdtry.jpg
http://www.dimensionsguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Hotel-Room.jpg
http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/1ds-4/sidi-driss-hotel-room.jpg
http://www.fopple.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/luxury-modern-room-design-black-and-white-color.jpg
http://www.arkivatropika.com/images/pictures/70_large.JPG

Easy as pie!

^this. Reference uber alles!

i know this isnt strictly related but you need to get rid of the heavy 'AO' its much too heavy and broad and is actually making it look like the walls are not touching, but casting shadows on each other.

Minos

The biggest problem here is not that everything looks clean, is that the lighting is very bland. You could try adding a window and a strong sun light outside leaking into the room.

Adding dirt and grime won't make anything look better if you add it just for the sake of it.

Orgoth02

if you didn't want to use vertex painting your could just use some grim decals

polygonfreak

You guys have given me a lot to think about. Before posting this, I thought one thing... but now I am thinking alot more clear... I am beginning to think like an artist rather then someone who knows how to use 3d software. I am also very much encouraged to get into my next project.

Thanks again for everyone taking the time to share your ideas with me.