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I was just curious as to what the average pay for an entry level artist is. I am graduating soon and will be looking for a full time job, I just want to make sure that if i do end up finding something I am not working for a too low of a wage.
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$25-40k
And concept/ character ? or " character modeler " ?
my personal examples:
env artist, monmouth, illinois (with a few years mod experience) $27,000 (2001)
env artist, reno, nevada (with previous monmouth experience) $48,000-$56,000 (2001-2006)
technical artist (scripting), reno nevada $48,000-$52,500 (2006-2008 )
env artist (contract), redmond, washington $62,500 (2008-2009)
http://www.gamecareerguide.com/features/416/the_game_industry_salary_survey_2007.php
The gist is between 30k-50k.
Washington state however received the most bang for your buck (aka highest paid for cost of living).
Also this did not take into account extra income people might've received.
And to Glib making 75K or more is usually 6+ years of experience.
LUCKY!
I hate that commercial!!!
'Of course you can pay me in gum!'
Yeah that sounds about right. So does that mean they're saying the average experience in the industry is 6 years? That would mean that we're averaging a senior artist? There would have to be an absolute ton of people with ~12 years of experience to balance out all the junior artists out there. Seems a bit off, no?
http://wiki.polycount.net/GameBusiness
The first two salary links are highly recommended, some great advice in them.
lol...completely missed that part out!!
This is one of the most getto commercial I've ever seen.
@EricChadwick: That review is for 2008 right? The entry level programmer job starts at 100k+ a year? lol.......
Well it said 57k if < 3 years at start, but it says programming there for IDsoft is worth 100k+..they didnt state if its a senior programmer or the entry level or Junior.. Usually programmers require atleast 3 years worth of practice in the industry before they are considered to be hired. They work for free and practice for 3 years to make their programming portfolio. (same approach as the 3d Artist). This is because the programming industry is dead, and only way you can get in is either some senior wishes for an early retirement and company is in the dire need of programmer (which is 1 in a million) Or you work with them as a volunteer for 3 years or until they consider you as a permanent programmer of their company.
So I dont think many people get paid as an Entry level position. =\
I was reading the chart underneath the basic avg chart of salary.
In my recent experience it's not quite so bad as that. It's tougher in general right now because of the economic mess, but companies still want to cut costs where they can. So they'll mine the recent graduate pool for the cream off the top, if they can find it.
A recent graduate has a few things going for them. Usually they're very energetic and enthusiastic. Some show a good amount of creativity. And some know their coursework really well. The comments down at the bottom here have some good info about graduates.
When employers are looking to fill a senior spot they are looking for a particular skill set not just time accrued. It's quite possible to work for 20 years and never improve past the Jr job requirements, or on the flip side wind up in a Sr role 6mo in.
That would fail horribly because sometimes you get (if you are from Ontario's first community college A.K.A Centennial college) a professor who wouldnt know first thing about Table Normalization...and you happen to read that chapter last night so you dictate him through out the entire class, which completely kills out the potential of learning the second part of it.(And he happens to be the University Professor for database2)..I usually laugh at articles like this, because I am learning on my own as well as studying in college so practically everyone in the CS industry including the game industry would want me to know more than any other book worm graduate out there.....<.<
As it should be.
Wow, really? Is there an overtime clause in your contract? I mean, you're working over 100% more hours than your contract states... that's pretty brutal. 20k Euro seems a bit low for the amount of hours you're working, thats equal to about 27.5k in US currency. That equals out to about $15 per hour if you are working 40 hours per week, and about $30 if u were actually working 20 hours per week.
I apologize if I sound naive as fuck, I've never worked a payed position in the field. Is this just the way most entry level positions are?
Do your research! Read all you can about them, contact current and former employees, contact their clients, etc. Research is key.