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I hope this thread is alright, it's something that's been weighing on me for a long time and I was hoping I might be able to find some advice here.
(Also I hope this is the right place, I was stuck between General Discussion and this one.)

It's kind of heavy and personal but gosh dang it I'll just jump right in before I doubt myself even more.

Basically, I'm a mess health wise and more often than not I feel like there's no point for someone so sick to continue to strive towards such a faraway dream. It's hard to put into words, there's a lot of conflicting emotions. Most of it boils down to hopelessness. I don't mind if people know my deal: I have crohn's disease, chronic migraines, and schizoaffective disorder. They all get in the way of things in different ways, from having multiple hospital visits to feeling overwhelming dread to not being able to remember things from a day ago.

So, understandably I hope, it often feels like my life's dream since I was the smallest of polygons is a lost cause. What's the point of continuing on if I'll just find myself in a hospital bed a week from now? If the paranoia will just tell me that a potential client is a looming enemy? If I won't remember my own personal projects and finish them?

It feels... Hopeless.

I guess what I'm asking boils down to: is there anyone else who creates for a living while existing with a body and mind that don't work as intended? I guess I just want to know if I'm alone or not, is all.

Thank you.

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  • slosh
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    I doubt you are alone but I, for one, am not familiar with anyone having that many obstacles while working a fulltime game developer gig.  I do know people who are constantly sick and thus miss a lot of work.  It's an issue for sure.  If you can create a situation where you are so good at what you do that studios are willing to deal with a little absence, that obviously can work to your benefit.  Maybe freelance is the way to go?  So you can take time off between projects.  Figuring out a good system to record lots of info as you work so even if you do forget, you can see your notes and remember the important stuff.  I think there is always hope but you will have to just figure out pipelines that work for you personally.  At the very least, you can still build towards your dream and have fun doing it.  Hopelessness is something we all feel at times regardless of sickness or disabilities.  Hang in there man!
  • Aydhe
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    Can't put myself in your shoes but i used to play with guy who was programmer with similar problem, for him freelance was way to go. His attitude was that by the end of day, doing something is always better than not doing anything and living with constant regret, regardless of one's condition.
    There's plenty of healthy people out there who are unhappy with their lives because they never tried to follow what they wanted, and plenty of disabled disabled or ill people who are very accomplished and happy.

    So hang in there :)
  • JordanN
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    Everyday I think to myself how much mental damage have I put myself through having to stare at a screen all day.
    The entire premise of being a 3D Artist is sitting put at a stationary computer for hours on end with the next day requiring the exact same activity. Health always seemed like something that was going to be affected at some point, unless someone could make it where you can 3D model & go jogging at the same time.

    That said, if other people can continue surviving such repetitive work environments for 10+ years, than I accepted I'll just have to go along with the ride as well.  
  • Marshkin
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    A co-worker of mine has a similar health situation as you.
    Similar to you, there a days where she can't do a thing, and days where she's fine. 

    1 - I recommend that if you are not already seeing a professional about your mental health, I recommend it
    2 - You need to look at your situation realistically. It is not hopeless but it is more difficult for you. 

    If you struggle to remember things, find a system, as slosh  said, of storing that information. Google drive is amazing for that. 

    You asked what was the point of continuing on if you'll be in the hospital a week later? The point is that in that week, you can achieve something. Maybe it's just modeling and texturing a few crates, or a weapon. But it is something. 
    And then you'll be taken offline because your body does what it does.
    But you'll be back. and bit by bit you build a foundation on those weeks and days where you do feel well enough.

    Hang in there - Share your work - You don't need to give up :) 
  • Alex_J
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    Sitting at a computer for long hours is going to make everything worse. Nothing is hopeless and I hope you'll strive and live your best life, but you'll need a lot of discipline to maintain a regimen of exercise and balanced living in order to offset the screen time, which only exacerbates preexisting conditions and can create new problems for perfectly healthy people. 

  • Zack Maxwell
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    If it's physically/psychologically tiring to work at the computer for long periods, I'd recommend getting an app like Focus Keeper for your phone/tablet. It keeps a timer of how long you've been working, and reminds you to take a break to get up and stretch at certain intervals (5 minutes out of every 25, by default, which is recommended).
    I have tendinitis in my arms, and it's been a massive help for me. As long as I keep to it, I get almost no pain/exhaustion, even from hunching over a tablet monitor.
    I'd also agree with the suggestions to aim for freelance work, so you can make your own hours and have more control. Selling assets and tutorials is also an option for experienced artists.
  • DeltaHexagon
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    Thank you for all the helpful advice! And the well wishes. I admit I had more than a little trepidation about checking polycount out today, but I'm glad I sucked it up and did it. It does feel a lot less... heavy, to have voiced my worry here. I apologize again for being a downer.

    I guess I just have to go with the flow, huh. To answer some questions: I see a few doctors and specialists regularly, so I'm not in some sort of horrible shitty health void all by my lonesome. I semi recently started new medication that's been having a good effect, so I'm very happy for that. I actually have a little bit of motivation that I haven't had in years, and have been slowly getting back into 3D work again by way of sculpting after work when I have the energy for it.

    I also took the initiative and got this dang thing in the hopes it'll help me sort things out a little bit, but I definitely will look into some way to store and sort information. Maybe a simple lined book to write things down in.

    I've been considering freelance but if I'll be honest I'm more than a little scared, mostly of messing up somehow or missing important deadlines. Does anyone think it'd be a good idea to let potential clients know ahead of time some of my health problems? Or would honesty be better left by the wayside here?
  • Alex_J
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    Would you hire somebody if they told you ahead of time that they were intermittently unreliable? 

    Nobody needs to know your personal business, but it's up to you to get things under control as best as possible so that you go into work with confidence. Maybe you are at a low point right now, and your perspective and self-image is skewed. There is no way to magically gain self-confidence, which you will need to do your best work -- you have to earn it by training yourself, testing yourself, and knowing exactly what you are capable of. You don't have to be the best to be confident. Confidence comes from knowing what you can do. Maybe you know that in any given week, you're most likely going to have 2 days where just can't do shit. Well, develop a training protocol to adapt to that reality. Maybe that means you need to learn to work more quickly, or spread your work out to include weekends but shorter hours each day. Only you know you, but as long as you remain determined, you will get yourself squared away. That doesn't mean having a perfectly normal day to day, but it means you can output the work you need and feel happy enough to smile once in while.

    Everybody has issues. Some worse than others. I had a head injury some years ago and struggled with depression for awhile, so I understand your feelings of hopelessness and loss of perspective. My advice -- no sitting and thinking. If you are sitting, be working. If you are tired of working, get outside and get moving. If you believe your work is shit, identify the shitty parts and start another one. You don't need to think about the future. You do the work now, and things fall into place.
  • Biomag
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    Freelancing doesn't mean you have to do everything by yourself. Freelancers go to lawyers or have accountants - so if you are worrying about messing up your organization / communication with clients, why not hire someone to do it for you? Doesn't need to be fulltime, doesn't need to cost you 50% of your income, but just to the degree you need help with.

    I would say the help and secruity it provides you would be worth the money spent on it since the opportunity costs of messing up client relationships would be worse.
  • carvuliero
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    I can suggest you try few things : 
    Change you diet - stop eating food filedl with chemicals that include tap water, clean your body and mind , all this chemicals effect you is some way , also there are bunch of parasites that live inside you and can manipulate your brain to get what they want like alcohol sugar or what ever or cause illness
    Look for real cause if your illness/depression try alternative medicine and meditation , don't just blindly believe doctors they are humans and don't know everything  I am sure most just score enough to pass the test I know such doctors !
    Stop watching stupidity on TV/internet ,that affect you too ,watching tv is complete waste of time anyway
    Set goals for yourself , if you really like art its vast area you have enough material to study for several live times so start with daily/weekly/monthly goals something small and easy at first .Aiming pointlessly at something vague lead to depression I know it from personal experience , knowing where you going really help keep you motivated and persevering during hard times
    Basically try everything mix and match till you find balance

    I strongly suggest you watch this movie :
    Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead:
  • Jonas Ronnegard
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    Didn't have time to read all the comments so I'm sure it has been said above as well, but job opportunities or chances to use your skills for work isn't all black or white, it's not a studio position or no job at all, there are so many things in between that you can do.

    If you have something else to keep you up financially maybe try to aim for freelance opportunities that don't have hard deadlines, that pay per asset created, then you can take you time.

    If you want to work in a studio there are still ways to get there as well, if you have the skill studios will do their best to support and adjust to you. so as long as you work and get better there is a chance you can reach that point.
  • Mask_Salesman
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    I've been in games for nearly a decade now. And I'm frail as fuck, EDS & bowel disease. Fortunately being genetic I've learnt how to deal with it by now and it doesn't affect my ability to work or really cause absences more than the expected normal employee's amount. But that's also something you have to work out with what makes stuff work for you, what works for me may not for you etc. Either way everywhere has always been cool and compassionate and assisted with anything. I also know guys who have alot worse health issues and are still principle artists etc.

    The average human and employee has some kind of health problem, so you're not alone or one in a million :) just be transparent with HR and they will help you be your best.

    And like Jonas said, there's always more than one solution/option to make art for a living so don't give up. Find the best which fits for you whether that's in house or out. :)
  • DeltaHexagon
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    You guys are awesome, thank you all so much for the advice and kind words. I feel much more calm and sure about all of this, and I appreciate all of you going out of your way to lend some kindness. I will keep working as hard as I can, and not fret when I can't do what I want to, and everything will work out for the best.

    Thank you, so much~!
  • Lanaea
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  • pangaea
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    You should try fasting for Crohns disease. I don't eat anything until 6 pm most weekdays and it seems to help with stomach. No more horrible stomach pains in the morning. Not only that, but I'm able to focus more in morning. 

    Just a thing to try. Especially if you are overweight. You should also consider jogging. I feel art can make you overweight as you need to spend a ton of time doing it to get good. It not like training for a marathon except you are sitting down all day.
  • N_GONE
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    i'm in a similar position, I'm just going to try my best and not worry about the future because having a disease shortens our lives as it is. Happiness is the main thing.
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