Underworld, Selene WIP

Joshua Godwin

I'm going to be reworking a character I made a few months ago. This is where it was at then.
http://www.joshuaart.com/underworld-selene.html

So I found a bit more reference and changed up the jacket and the rest of clothing a little bit. I also hate how the fibermesh hair turned out so I did a quick sculpt of hair (I suck at sculpting hair so it also isn't that great.)



Here is what I plan on changing.
Create Low Poly Hair
Fix a couple details on the jacket and get rid of a couple mesh intersections.
Rework the topology. Make it a bit higher res somewhere around maybe 20-30k triangles excluding hair.
Texture in Substance
Render in UE4

Anything else you guys think I could improve?

Joshua Godwin

Working on some low poly hair. I'm guessing once I texture the head that part won't look so awful. Right?

Anybody have tips on hair for games? I couldn't really find any good tutorials online.

EternalEcho

Your base sculpt needs some work. I'd suggest backing off the hair for now. The head looks huge, and needs a lot more fundamental anatomy definition. Back it way down to just the nude form, and figure it all out there. With a character like selene, who is in a skin-tight suit, you have no excuse to not flush out all anatomical details.

Elithenia

I agree with @EternalEcho
The head needs to have a second look at.

When it comes to hair though, it depends on the applications you are using. But I can suggest Adam Skutt's tutorial (on gumroad) for game res hair with Maya and Xgen. There's youtube videos of ornatrix and GMH2. You can handpaint the textures in photoshot. 
Just going down the front page of polycount there's quite a few pieces having game ready hair, even a tutorial for how to do it. Have a look at this: http://polycount.com/discussion/comment/2546404#Comment_2546404

A quick google search will give you this site as the first result: https://www.3dartistonline.com/news/2015/04/how-do-i-create-real-time-hair-for-games/

Joshua Godwin

@EternalEcho thanks for the feedback. could you be a little more specific. About what anatomical details are you referring to? Also I'll have to check the head size again but I believe her head is fairly large in all the reference I've seen, I may have overexaggerated it though.

Joshua Godwin

@Elithenia thanks I'll have to take a look at those links. And I guess also scale that head down quite a bit

EternalEcho

So there isn't just one or two anatomical flaws here. Here's a list of things that immediately jump out:
Forehead too large, bridge of the nose not wide enough, cheekbone definition, the flow between the bridge and the cheeks, the end of  her nose shape, her eye shape, deltoids, traps, thighs, hips, obliques, angle of the arms (arms don't just become straight tubes when holding straight out) shoulderblades, glutes, biceps, triceps, breasts, ankle width, calves. 

Joshua Godwin

So I took a few days to work on a different project and come back to this.

So I redid the base body. Any thoughts? if the anatomy looks right then I'll move on to smoothing it out and making it into a skintight suit.

Disregard the hands and feet for now as those will be replaced.

Joshua Godwin

Fixed up some stuff that I thought didn't look right. Top Left is how the skin tight suit might look once smoothed.

Joshua Godwin

Alright I think the bases are all ready now.

Joshua Godwin

I think the high poly is pretty much done.

Joshua Godwin

retopology is finished... I think. For now at least.

Joshua Godwin

This is where I'm at with the texturing so far. Still needs a quite a bit of work. I'm still not completely sure on the head size but it seems to match the reference. If anyone has any critiques or anything then feel free to shout them out. I plan on fixing up the skin texturing, reworking the hair, adding some design elements to the jacket, and texturing the eyes.



renders are from Substance Painter

Joshua Godwin

This is where I'm at now. Face and hair are pretty much done. Renders are in substance. Have yet to figure out how the shaders will look in ue4

Elithenia

You skin looks a little bit dead/waxxy, and could do well with some more colour variation.
Have a look at pictures like this for portrait painters to get an idea of what colours to use where 


and one pic to show a female, but it is a long one so I'm gonna leave it as a link:
http://imgur.com/VqZz0

Joshua Godwin

@Elithenia thanks. I'm going to have to try that.

Joshua Godwin

Redid the back of her vest. Also I've been working on getting the shaders in ue4 set up. ue4 can be so complicated and annoying...

Anyways once I can figure out why building the lighting is causing problems at the seams I should be all set. Just need to move on to posing the character.

Joshua Godwin

I think this is pretty much the final, just need to render out some more shots. Last chance to tell me something is wrong

Joshua Godwin

One more with the jacket.