Trans-Pacific Partnership

Greg DAlessandro

Remember how bad Sopa was? This is much worse. With the Trans-Pacific Partnership you can be sent to jail and fined for minor copyright infringements if this passes. You will be monitored, can get kicked off the internet, and your computer can be siezed if found to be connected to infringing activity - even if you are connected or not. Spread awareness by sharing this information.
They are doing this in secrecy and are trying to harshen penalties for whistle-blowers. This needs to not pass.

http://imgur.com/a/KuERk#wIaF3c1

DavidCruz

in secrecy and are trying to harshen penalties for whistle-blowers

If this is true and many people dislike "cyber bullying", doesn't this kind of fall into that as a whole? Except it's the gov and for whatever reason we let them do whatever they want? why is that again?

Cause we use their money? well stop using it then.. simple? y/n this will wake them up wouldn't it? I don't know just thinking here..

Since I would like more people to wake up here:
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RmBjLN58rU[/ame]

^some information to help i guess, if you care about your families and such that is.

Joopson

A lot of that seems like it could be fear mongering based on assumptions and (possibly) misinformation, though.

Can someone back up that the TPP is as evil as these would make it seem?

JedTheKrampus

No one can really back anything up because the text of the agreement isn't available to the public. I have a bad feeling about the TPP though. It smells like it doesn't use MikkTSpace.

Joopson

Goddamn TppTSpace.

DavidCruz wrote: »

Since I would like more people to wake up here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RmBjLN58rU
^some information to help i guess, if you care about your families and such that is.

He's like the most condescending person, and he doesn't even say anything thoughtful in the video; much less something that teaches me anything. Just gives his opinions on "fiat currency" for half the time, and just kind of talks for the next half about nothing in particular. He also seems to be way too obsessed with the idea that money is a real thing, as opposed to something humans just invented.

Needles

SO basically this is the mpaa or whoever getting access to all the pirates in the third world? Also japan going after all the anime pirates?

Who the hell is gonna enforce any of this? DO they think any of these third world nations have the patience to will to spend cash on someone who downloaded a copy of game of thrones?


Who is gonna enforce any of this??? I mean it works SOOOO well in the us right??

AtticusMars

DavidCruz wrote: »

If this is true and many people dislike "cyber bullying", doesn't this kind of fall into that as a whole? Except it's the gov and for whatever reason we let them do whatever they want? why is that again?

Cause we use their money? well stop using it then.. simple? y/n this will wake them up wouldn't it? I don't know just thinking here..

Since I would like more people to wake up here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RmBjLN58rU

^some information to help i guess, if you care about your families and such that is.

What 'information' was I supposed to glean from this exactly?

Because I feel like I just wasted 17 minutes watching aimless rambling

blankslatejoe

The OP infographic seems to focus on just the copyright side of it...which seems like a small part of the treaty. This comic goes into a bit more detail about what's known/notknown and trade treaties in general:

http://economixcomix.com/home/tpp/

Mstankow

Political stuff like this shouldn't be on polycount.

Also please don't make your opinion based on some jpegs.

ghaztehschmexeh

Mstankow wrote: »

Political stuff like this shouldn't be on polycount.

Also please don't make your opinion based on some jpegs.

Yes let's make our informed decisions based on what the politicians are telling us!

oh...

wait...

Greg DAlessandro

I may have come off as rambling, but it's just something I want to let others know about because it is important.

Rurouni Strife

While the TPP is being worked on behind closed doors (although kinda poorly as info has leaked out and not just from WikiLeaks), I wasn't aware of any IP type of negotiations being done. Also, part of what makes me question the validity of this info-graphic is that if the idea is to raise healthcare costs...that...goes against everything that the Affordable Care Act did.

But I am interested in seeing if there is any credible information about these IP negotiations so I'll be looking into that.

Meloncov

Needles wrote: »

SO basically this is the mpaa or whoever getting access to all the pirates in the third world? Also japan going after all the anime pirates?

Who the hell is gonna enforce any of this? DO they think any of these third world nations have the patience to will to spend cash on someone who downloaded a copy of game of thrones?


Who is gonna enforce any of this??? I mean it works SOOOO well in the us right??

No one thinks they can stop random individuals from pirating TV shows. Its corporations using dozens of copies of pirated software they're trying to crack down on.

peanut™

What a thread Yourname942, very informative, im going to spend sometime and review everything in this. Clearly i had no idea of the implication behind this agreement. I previously thought that it only affected big companies and some obscure country to country exchange.

Thanks a million for this.