[UDK] Spaceship Interior
CURRENT SCENE PROGRESS-
Hello all, it's been a short while but I'm back with another environment project. I'm using this concept (with permission, of course) from Viktor Jonsson-
I've made three pieces so far. Lowpoly shots are in Marmoset, highpoly and wires in Maya.
And here's a shot of the whiteboxed scene in UDK.
From here, I'm probably going to start in on more wall pieces first, finish all those before moving onto the floor. As always, C&C are welcome and appreciated. Thanks for looking!
Hello all, it's been a short while but I'm back with another environment project. I'm using this concept (with permission, of course) from Viktor Jonsson-
I've made three pieces so far. Lowpoly shots are in Marmoset, highpoly and wires in Maya.
And here's a shot of the whiteboxed scene in UDK.
From here, I'm probably going to start in on more wall pieces first, finish all those before moving onto the floor. As always, C&C are welcome and appreciated. Thanks for looking!
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Very nice work !
Is it possible if you explain a little bit your Workflow the way you added the Details ? Or is this made by hand :poly142:
Radiocity: Well, since this is all hard surface stuff, I just use Maya to create the highpoly. It is done by hand as you say, but I do a lot of cloning and reuse of detail pieces to make the process faster. (For example, with the wires I create 3 or 4 of them, then clone those and use soft selection to alter their shapes.) My process for creating them is pretty standard- just starting with a primitive and adding edge loops and extrusions until it's the shape I want. Most of the detail is floating geometry, not actually connected to the base mesh, and that makes it easier too since you don't have to worry about edge flow or anything. Thanks!
Have to say I love such whiteboxed scenes it remindes me of the game Mirrow Edge
Also your First picture ist just perfect
My one question - are you supposed to obtain permission to use concept art for portfolio scenes? I didnt know that
Ugh, it's been over a month, I'm so ashamed. :poly138: I've had a lot going on lately, not the least of which being my computer crapping out on me. I'm going to try to update more frequently from here on.
I've got a few new assets, I made the glowing cabinet-freezer thing from the concept and did a couple variations on the wall piece-
And here's the blockout so far, still haven't really touched lighting yet and if things look distorted or too far away from the camera, it's because I cranked up the FOV to try to match the concept's composition as closely as possible- it's looking like I won't be able to faithfully recreate it in UDK, it's just too wide. Not such a big problem though, since I'm building the environment to be viewable from any angle, not just the one in the concept.
Thanks for looking, more wall pieces comin' up.
are you using ddo by any chance?
MeshModeler- That easy to tell, is it? :P This is the first time I've used dDo, and I really like it. It's sped up my texturing process immensely, and I generally get good results.
Thaurdol- I do plan on it, that's why I've left a bunch of empty space near the top. The concept has a lot of hanging panels, pipes, etc. up there that I'll be putting in eventually. Thanks!
id say go into the masks and give them more variety. You should be modifying your textures after ddo as to not give it away
Very impressive.
Keep up the great work!
May I ask, regarding your texturing process, does each of your pieces have its own material and custom texture, or are you using a single material for multiple different pieces?
MeshModeler- Yeah, I definitely agree. There were a few spots that I considered touching up even before I posted this, like the edges of those metal doors, but in my haste I forgot to do it. I gotta be careful, it's really tempting to get lazy with dDo, haha. I'll do another pass on my textures and tone down the wear a bit. Thanks a lot!
Subtle 1rony- I used either one or two textures for each, depending on the piece. Things like the door and the freezer, that weren't too complicated and took up a small part of the wall, have one texture-
And the more complicated ones used two textures, for example the gateway was split into the front and back parts, and the window/vent pieces were split into the wall section and the floor section-
All textures are 2048s in my Marmoset shots, but for UDK I brought them down to 1024.
oobersli- I've been debating how to handle some of the details. My reasoning for using so much normal detail as opposed to actual geometry on the low poly was that a lot of these pieces are going to be cloned around the environment, so I didn't want the polycounts to climb too high just for the wall pieces. (For example, the piece I posted today on the left is at 3,258 tris) But since it's noticeable, I think I'll go back and model out some of the more prominent panels and details. Thanks for the feedback!
As for new stuff, I made the connecty-pieces for up top-
and I also modeled the inside of the little room from the concept, as well as the inside of this doorway (I envision it as an elevator)-
Here's the scene as it stands right now.
The seams between the connector pieces and the other objects are kind of bothering me right now, and I'm not quite sure how to go about fixing them. I think it's just kind of an unavoidable thing due to the way lightmaps work in UDK, in which case I'll have to add some kind of texture detail there to obscure the seam. If anyone has any other suggestions on how to fix this, I'd appreciate it.
Probably going to be adding more modular wall pieces next, there's still a lot of blank walls in the scene that you can't really see from this angle and I ought to start filling them up. Thanks for looking!
So, I lied last time. No modular wall pieces yet really, I got distracted by more highpoly stuff. I've got this big room to fill so I'm making a few things to help it feel less empty.
I've got one or two more big assets to do for this room, THEN I'm on to the wall pieces. Everything after will be considerably less complicated... I'm moving a bit too slow on this, and I'd like to finish before end of year if I can. Thanks for looking!
I agree with oobersli, you could add a bit more geometry on some stuff, a lot of the high poly detail are lost, too bad since they're pretty neat
Strkl- Don't know if you saw, I went back and modeled some more geometry for some of my lowpoly pieces in post #28. I'm not sure I want to make them any higher poly than that since most of them are just wall pieces that are going to be cloned around. If there's something specific that you think I should be adding to, let me know and I can fix it! Thanks!
locater16- Hmm, interesting. The white is indeed placeholder, I was planning to stick pretty closely to the concept and keep the dark ceiling, but I could try keeping the white and see how it compares as the environment gets more finished. I definitely like the look of those Hardware concepts. Thanks!
Parth- Yes sir, I'm using dDo for every piece in this environment. I wanted to see what all the buzz was about, and it's definitely been giving me good results so far. Though it's way too tempting to cake on too much dirt and wear with it... It's definitely a program that requires restraint to use effectively. Thanks!
ToffeeApple- Hey, thanks! I'm surprised you remember, it's been such a long time already since I finished that. I need to really step up the speed on this project.
So I've only got a highpoly for you this week, I've been busy with an art test and other life stuff lately so I haven't had as much time to work on this as I'd like. I kind of designed this thing as I went along without a lowpoly in mind, which was a bad idea. I have the feeling that making a lowpoly for this thing will be a pain.
Thanks for looking!
As you can see, I'm having mad lightmap problems on this thing in UDK, (despite having no overlapping UVs, a high lightmap res, and lightmass set to production quality) so I'm going to see what I can do about that at some point. Lighting has been something that has gone pretty much untouched thus far, I'm planning do at least a basic lighting pass soon. But for now, I'm finally going to make myself get started on those walls and floors. Thanks for looking!
Anyways I subscribed to this thread and look forward to seeing more, perhaps I'll finish this project in the near future.
Higuy- Thanks, no problem. I find it really beneficial to show the wireframe, so that if anyone has a comment or critique on my model or my edge flow I can try to improve on it.
ajr2764- Wow, cool. A few people have mentioned that they were thinking about taking on this concept, I guess it's no surprise since it's a really interesting one, I've had a lot of fun with it so far. If you're gonna start up on your version again let me know, I'd like to see how you tackle it! (You'll probably even finish before me, seeing how slow I'm moving on it :P)
So, this is likely to be my last update for a while. I got an art test recently that I'm going to get started on, and soon after I finish that I'm going to be moving halfway across the country, which probably isn't going to leave much time for this. I'll try my best to update in the interim.
As for right now, I've got five of the floor panels done.
Plan by the next update is to have all the floors finished and in the scene. Thanks for looking!
Great job on the modelling and textures so far.
What are you using for baking your maps?
1 the constant use of ddo
2 all of your models seem to lack really anything more than primitive shapes.
3 the models seem to have limited believably due to the above fact, one of the biggest things people seem to do wrong in scifi is just adding random shapes without any cohesion of thought to the design. It just doesn't seem functional.
4 a lot of your low polys have a really disproportionate polygon distribution, a lot of smaller shapes having way more than needed.
for some good inspiration look at http://www.peperaart.com/
obviously no one can be expected to be this good but his work makes good points visually and has a lot to draw off of in terms of reference. If you try and look at a lot of real life things and hint at functionality more, and make your shapes a little bit more interesting you'll find this scene looking much nicer and much less random.
I would also do a lighting pass and tone down that white texture everywhere so you can get a more close to final representation of what you'll be working with.
Hope this helps.
Especially the baking is very nice done.