[WIP] Flak 88

ShootandRun

Hey all,
this is the flak 88 canon that I've been working on, this is the current highpoly,
please c&c, I tried to give it some lighting but I'm not the best at lighting :P

If you would like better shots of specific areas lemme know and I'll post em.

Thanks everyone!

The Lone Penguin

Some of your edges are definitely too tight. Not looking at references at the moment but otherwise nice detail

3dcaspar

I really like what i'm seeing ^^
I myself modelled a Flak88 (but with the version with a shield) during my school time and i think your proportions are well done! (way better than mine )

Lucas Annunziata

Lookin pretty good. As Penguin said, some of your edges are way too tight, especially the main cross piece. Really exaggerate them so that they will bake better. The circular crank pieces are looking a tad soft right now, where the cross transitions into the circle.

JackalSkull

I also feel like the edges on the squareish part the barrel recoils through are too sharp.

ShootandRun

thanks everyone for the feedback

update, new render in max!!!

Callesw

Looks really awesome! And it also looks like it will suck to bake down all of that haha a lot of work!
I second the thing about loosening up some of those edges

cool render!

ShootandRun

@callesw thanks, baking should be...interesting. I've loosened up a few areas, if you (and other polycounters) could point out specific areas I will definitely loosen those edges up too


Some other views:

Lucas Annunziata

These new renders are looking pretty slick, but the shadow quality seems like its set really low. I'm curious to see how you tackle certain areas of the low poly on this. Good luck!

Olli.

pretty cool gun!

you got something odd going on with the shadows in the renders though.. usually that sort of blurry shadows are only in real time renders/games

Dim

Loving these new renders! I'd say head away from the low-res buffered shadows and try to work some color into them, rather than the black. Hot shit though

ShootandRun

@darbeenbo: thanks, and yes I realize now that I should have bumped up the shadow map size.

@Olli: thanks I'm pretty happy with how it came out, lighting made a HUGE difference

@dim: thank yee and Voila, the lp is below..in the process of being tackled

For the shadows since I've been getting feedback on that right now the shadow map size is at 1024, one light has 8 samples, the other has 14, I'll be bringing it up to like 2048 and like 20 samples. If anyone knows of other setting for me to change to bump up the shadows please let me know

update: working on the lp, I'm not sure if I can get it lower than 13992 tris, I wanted it to be less that 13k, if anyone sees spots where I can cut out polys let me know :thumbup:

ShootandRun

So I got it to 13k! thanks for the help PenGuin :poly108:



Also i think I fixed the weird shadow problem

Dim

Nice! That render is really coming together, but get it on a slightly lighter background. That LP is snazzy, can't wait to see this done

ShootandRun

made them renders pretty

Dim

Looking better than the last ones! You're getting some weird light bleeding on the central part of the chassis though. Also, overall, your material looks a little waxy. I'd recommend getting some better spec on there (you can color it if you like). Check some of Snefer's stuff out. http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94201

ShootandRun

Thanks for the tip Dim, do you have an advice render wise? I think compiling them all in photoshop is overlaying small details so they are becoming more obvious

Lucas Annunziata

I think having a relatively tight and strong specular material on there is what you need. If you are using max, check out this shader:

http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69829

ShootandRun

It's been a while, the LP unwrap for this took a lot longer than I had hoped for and other school work got in the way.

I'm trying to find ways to bring more color into it but the flak is really just one color. I'm trying to decide how grungy I want it to be, all of the reference pictures I have are from museums which have them pretty clean, any ideas/thoughts would be greatly appreciated.



the lp comes out to be 11796 tris


normals, diffuse (which is currenly wip)
I'm working on them in 4096, then end texture I'm hoping will be 2048

ShootandRun

specular update

Lucas Annunziata

Beat this thing up a little bit, and get some more specular information in there.

ShootandRun

funny you should say that
I forgot to update, I did a liiiitttttle more work to it, it might look a lil different :poly121:

respawnrt

Nice dude, maybe work a bit on the smaller pieces like those little boxes and valves so they don't look like the rest of the gun.I mean a bit of variety in details.

ShootandRun

thanks respawnrt!

I've added water marks and worked on the spec and gloss maps more to try to make the whole thing have little pockets of details/eye candy

thoughts on the water stains? should I make them stand out more? less?

ShootandRun

some shots around the flak, using "blue sky" in Marmo I was playing around with the lights trying to get the ones that wouldn't add color to the scene while also showing of the details in the spec as best as possible. (sry for all the large images)

Captain Narway

Looking real slick. Congrats on the being in the recap!

JacqueChoi

F'n AH!

Congrats on the frontpage mention dude!

^_^

respawnrt

Nice, smart thing to add those water marks.