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  • ScudzAlmighty
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    I got the impression he was more deeply delusional and doesn't see anything wrong with it.
  • Jungsik
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    wow.....speechless..this is what i wake up to..T-T
  • Adam L. Gray
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    "That’s a long story. I’m a self-taught artist, I think."

    'I think'

    :D
  • JacqueChoi
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    **edit***

    arrgh... bad intel
  • MM
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    JacqueChoi wrote: »
    Jaco's catwoman is in there.

    where ?

    the catwoman i see is from batman game and actually has the proper copyright information at bottom of description.
    http://j-century.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=0#/d4qrv3p
    ™ & © Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
    © 2008 Rocksteady, all rights reserved.
    © Torunedo Dezainsutajio 2012. All Rights Reserved.

    it seems obvious to me that there is a disconnected between what we think he is doing and what he thinks he is doing. he basically extracts art assets from games and poses them and renders them. his friends and people in his circle are hobbyists and dont really know the difference or care to look deeper into to issue.
  • Olli.
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  • Bibendum
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    Nah that's the catwoman model from Arkham City.

    Not even sure how he would get his hands on Jaco's model unless he gave it to him.
  • ScudzAlmighty
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    hmmm, I'm confused. From reading some of the model comments I don't see him anywhere saying he modeled them, per-se, and on one of the FF dudes (Snow?) he actually posts a link to where he downloaded it. So is he saying he modeled them as well, or just posed and rendered them?

    Jacque, I only see the AC Catwoman as well, sure you're not just subconsciously wishing AC had used Jaco's model instead?
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    hmmm, I'm confused. From reading some of the model comments I don't see him anywhere saying he modeled them, per-se, and on one of the FF dudes (Snow?) he actually posts a link to where he downloaded it. So is he saying he modeled them as well, or just posed and rendered them?
    "I never said I modeled it" is really a weak rationalization in my opinion.

    People tend to assume when you put your name on something that it's your work. The copyright notice at the bottom is worthless information, even the artist who actually created the original has to put that notice down there because the studio owns the copyright regardless of who made it.

    In any case anything of value has already been said on page 1: None of these people have futures as artists. At best they get some false sense of pride from the praise they garner from ignorant strangers (and I guess ignorant editors on websites that interview them...)
  • Kala.Istvanek
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    Hello Members of the Polycount Forum,

    I am the author of the article and first of all I would just like to apologize for my ignorance. I have been doing a lot of interviews with 2d artists and even a sculptor that I've found on deviantart.com and I wanted to branch out and interview someone who was working with 3D modeling. This "artist" just happened to be the one of the ones that popped up and I saw that he had a lot of submissions so I went for it. Considering the amount of submissions he had I didn't even consider the possibility that he may have been an art thief, since usually deviantart is pretty good about getting rid of those kind of things or at least in my experience. I also don't know a whole lot about 3D modeling as I've never actually done 3D modeling. This was definitely a big mistake on my part and I apologize for spotlighting him without doing my research.

    Now, on to the "good" news or at least I think it is good news, however, you guys might think differently. Anyways, in an effort to diversify the artist spotlights and as a chance to apologize to the people that J-century may have ripped off I want to interview some of the fine artists here. So if you are interested in an interview please send me a private message with a link to your portfolio or some of your pieces and I will take a look at them and then. After reviewing your work I will send you questions that I would like you to answer for the interview. You can also send me links to artists that you think I might be interested in or that you think deserves a spotlight and I can try and contact them myself.

    Again my sincerest apologies!
    Kala
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    hmmm, I'm confused. From reading some of the model comments I don't see him anywhere saying he modeled them, per-se, and on one of the FF dudes (Snow?) he actually posts a link to where he downloaded it. So is he saying he modeled them as well, or just posed and rendered them?

    Jacque, I only see the AC Catwoman as well, sure you're not just subconsciously wishing AC had used Jaco's model instead?

    oh woops! you n MM are right.

    my bad.


    T_T
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    Hello Members of the Polycount Forum,

    I am the author of the article and first of all I would just like to apologize for my ignorance. I have been doing a lot of interviews with 2d artists and even a sculptor that I've found on deviantart.com and I wanted to branch out and interview someone who was working with 3D modeling. This "artist" just happened to be the one of the ones that popped up and I saw that he had a lot of submissions so I went for it. Considering the amount of submissions he had I didn't even consider the possibility that he may have been an art thief, since usually deviantart is pretty good about getting rid of those kind of things or at least in my experience. I also don't know a whole lot about 3D modeling as I've never actually done 3D modeling. This was definitely a big mistake on my part and I apologize for spotlighting him without doing my research.

    Now, on to the "good" news or at least I think it is good news, however, you guys might think differently. Anyways, in an effort to diversify the artist spotlights and as a chance to apologize to the people that J-century may have ripped off I want to interview some of the fine artists here. So if you are interested in an interview please send me a private message with a link to your portfolio or some of your pieces and I will take a look at them and then. After reviewing your work I will send you questions that I would like you to answer for the interview. You can also send me links to artists that you think I might be interested in or that you think deserves a spotlight and I can try and contact them myself.

    Again my sincerest apologies!
    Kala


    great that you're doing that and all. but you also might want to add a footer to the offending artical, explaining the difference between what he's doing, and real genuine creation. especially as some parts of the interview seem to allude to the possibility that doing what he's doing can actually land you jobs (or at the very least, that people THINK it can).

    also, this really made me chuckle...
    TP: Have you ever had to deal with a situation where someone else took credit for your work? If so, what did you do to resolve it? How did this art theft make you feel?

    JC: Sure, it always happens to me. I found a lot of people using my art without my permission and some of them steal my art, make some modify and claim as their it as their own. I report that as a violation and usually in DeviantART the staff has a high efficiency of reaction for the report I make. Honestly, I feel quite happy when someone steals my art because no one will steal my art if it looks bad.
    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAAHA!
  • Bibendum
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    great that you're doing that and all. but you also might want to add a footer to the offending artical, explaining the difference between what he's doing, and real genuine creation. especially as some parts of the interview seem to allude to the possibility that doing what he's doing can actually land you jobs (or at the very least, that people THINK it can).
    Really don't think that's necessary... The article got comment bombed pretty hard. Either leave it up or take it down but don't try to turn it into some PSA.
  • JohnnySix
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    Kwakkie & Gir beat me to it haha, that quote from the interview was the best.


    I think the quality of my art must've gone down, as I've not had anything ripped since I was submitting UT skins to Identity Crisis over @ PlanetUnreal Circa 2002. :(
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    JohnnySix wrote: »
    Kwakkie & Gir beat me to it haha, that quote from the interview was the best.


    I think the quality of my art must've gone down, as I've not had anything ripped since I was submitting UT skins to Identity Crisis over @ PlanetUnreal Circa 2002. :(

    you need more tits and guns dude.
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    Bibendum wrote: »
    Really don't think that's necessary... The article got comment bombed pretty hard. Either leave it up or take it down but don't try to turn it into some PSA.

    aww man! and i just got my pitch fork out of the cupboard =[
  • xvampire
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    1305895662_copyright_tag_for_deviants_4_by_rclarkjnr-d3grs1p.png he put this, in every his deviantart submission, I want to !! :D


    this is quite small case compared to what I ve seen lately, someone extract game music, and claim it as his own, and he got mainstream media exposure ( TV), interviewed and praised.


    of course, with the power of internet community, he go down so fast, and made official apology statement. :3

    life lesson ...
    why so hard to be honest ?
  • leilei
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    xvampire wrote: »
    why so hard to be honest ?

    teh pageviews = big ego is srs bsns


    If you're against his quest for ego in any fashion, you are one of the "so many idiots in this world"


    Weird delusional approach to society.
  • Isaiah Sherman
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    You could probably make it up better by making a very bold statement before the interview that he did not model, texture, or rig any of those. He simply rips them from games, poses them, renders it, then slaps worthless copyright messages on them.

    That would do more justice than asking to interview people here.
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    How about notify some of the companies he is ripping off and get a couple cease and desist letters off to deviantArt? What's really getting me is that he takes "Commissions" :P
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    Come on, this guy is answering what is being asked by interviewer.

    and if you all visit his profile and read his deviantID, you all will know that he is a xnalara user.

    Based on what I see on his profile, he gives proper credits to those related developer companies and original artist (if he know the name). This is legal, and he did not abusing any regulation of copyright as well. I don't care he is ripping them or what, as long as he did not do anything harmful to the related developer that should be fine.

    Do you all see he making some nude stuffs like porn with those models? Fcuk Yeah and try to check out how many pervert artists making porn with those models.

    Try to think, guys. If he is abusing law and regulation, why are he still there? He should be disappear long time ago from there, right?

    Maybe he is not one of us, maybe he did not make model from zero but he is an artist too, good renders need time and experience as well. If he learn ZBrush or some other bad-ass sculpting software, I am pretty sure he will make some serious killing here and maybe some of us will be KO by him.

    So please, show some respect. 3D artists have categories too, full modeler, renderer, premade studio artist and so on. We are modeler and he is considered as renderer while those Poser/DAZ users are premade studio artist.
  • Bibendum
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    I like your logic, piracy must be legal too because I mean if it was illegal wouldn't it be gone by now?
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    Spavoski wrote: »
    Do you all see he making some nude stuffs like porn with those models?

    This not the first time I've seen a "at least it's not naked" sympathy excuse to justify plagiarism. I've seen that happen a lot from those who are caught by another author. It's also illogical because most likely he wouldn't even have the skills to make nudity out of another model, lol.
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    Spavoski wrote: »
    Come on, this guy is answering what is being asked by interviewer.

    and if you all visit his profile and read his deviantID, you all will know that he is a xnalara user.

    Based on what I see on his profile, he gives proper credits to those related developer companies and original artist (if he know the name). This is legal, and he did not abusing any regulation of copyright as well. I don't care he is ripping them or what, as long as he did not do anything harmful to the related developer that should be fine.

    Do you all see he making some nude stuffs like porn with those models? Fcuk Yeah and try to check out how many pervert artists making porn with those models.

    Try to think, guys. If he is abusing law and regulation, why are he still there? He should be disappear long time ago from there, right?

    Maybe he is not one of us, maybe he did not make model from zero but he is an artist too, good renders need time and experience as well. If he learn ZBrush or some other bad-ass sculpting software, I am pretty sure he will make some serious killing here and maybe some of us will be KO by him.

    So please, show some respect. 3D artists have categories too, full modeler, renderer, premade studio artist and so on. We are modeler and he is considered as renderer while those Poser/DAZ users are premade studio artist.

    Hmmm.....fishy
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    Spavoski wrote: »
    Come on, this guy is answering what is being asked by interviewer.

    and if you all visit his profile and read his deviantID, you all will know that he is a xnalara user.

    Based on what I see on his profile, he gives proper credits to those related developer companies and original artist (if he know the name). This is legal, and he did not abusing any regulation of copyright as well. I don't care he is ripping them or what, as long as he did not do anything harmful to the related developer that should be fine.

    Do you all see he making some nude stuffs like porn with those models? Fcuk Yeah and try to check out how many pervert artists making porn with those models.

    Try to think, guys. If he is abusing law and regulation, why are he still there? He should be disappear long time ago from there, right?

    Maybe he is not one of us, maybe he did not make model from zero but he is an artist too, good renders need time and experience as well. If he learn ZBrush or some other bad-ass sculpting software, I am pretty sure he will make some serious killing here and maybe some of us will be KO by him.

    So please, show some respect. 3D artists have categories too, full modeler, renderer, premade studio artist and so on. We are modeler and he is considered as renderer while those Poser/DAZ users are premade studio artist.
    I don't think you could make it any more obvious that you are J-Century. Why not just speak for yourself rather than write in third-person as if you're someone else posting in his defense?

    Just because people don't normally bother to crack down on these issues doesn't mean they're okay; ripping models is clearly reverse engineering and goes against the EULA of most retail games, and doesn't fall under fair use for the copyrighted material, regardless of what you're using it for. Doesn't seem like you're too familiar with copyright by what you say here.
    Spavoski wrote:
    If he learn ZBrush or some other bad-ass sculpting software, I am pretty sure he will make some serious killing here and maybe some of us will be KO by him.
    Haha, good one; you couldn't even hold a conversation with an average 3d artist. Even when posing as someone else, you can't resist an opportunity to stroke your ego.
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    Spavoski wrote: »
    Come on.

    at least try to lie a bit better next time .... man you are super obvious. ..., :p
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    At least the interview has the merit to show that the problem doesn't come from bad handling of the English language. The guy proved that he indeed is quite skillful a bending words and sneakily avoiding to make clear statements about what he does.

    "Hello, I download 3D models and render them from cool angles!"
    Now that wouldn't be too hard to type, huh!
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    Spavoski wrote: »
    ...This is legal, and he did not abusing any regulation of copyright as well. ... as long as he did not do anything harmful to the related developer that should be fine...
    Charging money to rip content and/or commercially exploit it isn't "fine". Copyright isn't just about claiming ownership of something, it's also about the privileges associated with licensed (often commercial) exploitation of an idea.
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