Octopos city New Environment

ayoub44

hi guys

in last days i start making a new environment called ' Octopos city " .
i have a lot of ref that i'm going to use so here is some shot from max
and i hope to find some time for my wip gun

a hipoly assest ( sidewalk ) and a modular building







the scene will a little broken
hope you like it

ayoub44

hi guys , now i'm planning to finish all the modeling ( most ) and then start texturing and lighting on udk
i make another sidewalk , hope it's better then the old one . and just a building

KazeoHin

UDK has some awesome procedural building systems in-place. I'd suggest you have a look, could save you quite a bit of modelling time. Instead of modelling an entire building, you model individual assets like windows, doors, columns, walls (hell, if you're clever you could even work the sidewalk in) and the engine will build buildings out of these assets in any shape you desire. Its pretty cool stuff, and perfect for what you're doing.

Jeff Parrott

The planning looks pretty good.

Your high poly assets need more detail and time spend sculpting. Look at reference of sidewalks/etc and try to mimic the details. The newer sidewalk you just made should be made up of multiple pieces like you did the first one. It's not reading that well right now.

ayoub44

@KazeoHil : didn't khnow that , i'm going to give it a try thanks

@jeffro : yes you right , i have to look more at my ref , now i'm going to do more sculpting and deatailing on it thanks

ayoub44

i make a new side walk just using the old one to create new . and a new buidling and more blocking for my scene hope you enjoy it

ayoub44

a new building

Gannon

Making some good progress on that street but your sculpts are still kind of weird.

It looks like your latest sidewalk wasn't evenly subdivided so you're getting some weirdness in the details.

If you're using Zbrush for sculpting I like to set a morph target and use the clay bruch with a scatter and a square alpha to really break up the surface. Then I'll go back with the morph brush with a scatter and square alpha again to bring back some of the detail and shape on my stone/concrete pieces.

Make sure you're using reference, thes scuplts are getting better but they can still be pushed a bit more. :thumbup:

ayoub44

@Gannon : thanks for this cool technique i'm going to use on my side walk and my buidling . thanks again

back with som update i'm bored making buidling . i'm going to add another one and start uving and texturing and working with UDK



crits and comments welcome

ParoXum

From what I can see, your intentions on your sculpt are good, and it would look better if the geometry was more even across the basemesh. In this case we can see the details are being stretched or blurry because tessellation is uneven.

If you fix this you'll end up with far better assets already.

ayoub44

hey , thanks for your comment ..

i guess the problem is from decimation master . to push number of poly down , if i didin't use it the model take long time to import to max

X-One

It doesn't appear to be a decimation master problem. It appears as though your sculping basemesh is not made of square-esque quads.

Most likely, you just imported your low poly mesh without first making all of your faces about the same size.

With your next asset, even out the sizes of faces on your basemesh and you'll find you'll have a far easier time of sculpting.

Envart

If you create the basemesh geo in Max, add an editpoly modifier to the stack and use that to 'normalise' the quads - this will save you the step of removing all those superfluous edges.

ayoub44

thanks guys for those advice

start texturing

ayoub44

more texturing , have to work on glass ... a shot from udk

ayoub44

more from udk

ayoub44

UPDATE :

I unwrap some buidling and give them a base texture and export them into udk and i sclupt a new side walk with thechnique Gannon give me

Jet_Pilot

Do you have any reference for that new sidewalk sculpt? My thing is the damage doesn't look realistic.

Shiniku

been said before but i still don't think you have even quads on the basemesh you're sculpting onto. Detail just looks.. incredibly wrong.

As was said, use some reference. And don't be afraid to take your time. Also, things like sidewalks are pretty hard and rough in nature, there probably wouldn't be so many soft little indents, more likely some very sharp chips and cracks. use some more hard-edged and planar brushes and stay away from smoothing.

A-N-P

I'd suggest toning down the damage some on the sidewalk sculpt, it would have to be a pretty bad ass place for the damage to be this much.

And plus, you want to avoid big forms and sticky-out (real word? :P) details like that for tileable reasons.. But keep working and you'll crack it!

ayoub44

ok i'm going to do it again .. but i dont understand that quads idea . here is a picture , this is a good base mesh ?



now i'm going to collect ref and start sclupting

Jeremy Wright

This looks cool, but I've got to say that is one hell of a steep slope on that road. That would totally destroy a car.

Also, that sidewalk doesn't look wide enough. Typically, a sidewalk is 4' - 5' wide. I think you need to put a placeholder person in there (you can download one from UDK), or just use a extruded rectangle that encompasses a characters collision box so you have an idea of scale.

ayoub44

@8Ftspider : thanks for advice

back with finishing a building texture , and i think i'm going to delet those two suck building .. because now i see some crysis 2 screenshot and get crazy and i'm going wrong so i'm going to make more cool buidling

sketch81

Nice to see your making progress and trying to improve as an artist. The graffiti stands out on your texture and I don't think it's in the correct spot. It looks like someone would need to hang upside down on the roof to graffiti in that area. Hopefully someone could clear this up because I might be wrong..

Keep moving forward and you'll nail it!

Rick_D

bricks too big
also use a different brush to sculpt, try trimdynamic for chipping stone

Jeremy Wright

Something else to note. Around an arch like at the top of the window, you would have a arch made of bricks laid in a radial pattern. Like this

ayoub44

thanks guys , i reset my blockout and made a simple and better one with better scale ( i hope is right ) so here is it :



i'm going to collect a lot of ref .. because i learn ref is the key , and start sclupting broken road and the side walk

Shiniku

ayoub44 wrote: »

ok i'm going to do it again .. but i dont understand that quads idea . here is a picture , this is a good base mesh ?



now i'm going to collect ref and start sclupting

Looks a bit like you've made it worse. You want all the polies to be square, and close tot he same size. Right now your polies vary in size tremendously, with very large ones in the center, and skinny ones at the edges. Also, all your polies are rectangles.it will sculpt better if they were square. A long skinny rectangle isn't going to hold detail in strange ways when subdivided, and just doesn't look good.

So basically, clean that up and add some more edges until you've got a model covered in squares that are of a consistant size and shape, like a checkerboard.

HughieDM

Its awesome that your blocking everything out I need to start my projects like that...
but any who your curb seems to be a bit high i comparison to the scale dude a curb normally comes up to just above the ankle your seems to be just blow the knee it could be just the perspective of the image

any way keep it up

ayoub44

thanks guys, now i understand the quads idea .. thanks

here is a shot from sidewalk and blocking road

Jeff Parrott

Looking much improved. It's awesome you're taking your time and blocking things out slowly with this. Just keep chipping away and refining and this is going to turn out well.

n88tr

where is octopos?

ayoub44

@Jeffro : thanks dud i will

@n88tr : in the scene will be a buidling ( focal point ) and with a octopos around it and some aircraft try to stop it because he did the damage that happen to this city

ayoub44

have some computer problem ... so i'm backing to work now

i make the road not like in the old blockout . for now i don't really like those white lines ..

more to come . i'm using tiling texture for this one



crits plz

ayoub44

i finish up the new sidewalk

Computron

I came to see octopi, and was disappointed.

ayoub44

steel early for the octopi but i'm going to start working on it soon

ayoub44

i finish the hipoly of the electric pole

ayoub44

another hipoly .. crits welcome

sjuskadur

The highPoly looks good! post a picture of the other side! one thing that i see right of the bat is the 2 cylinders that hold up the whole barricade (part of the latch) feel like they need somekind of a connector between the parts they run straight into the top and bottom.
keep it up!

Rick_D

good to see some crysis 2 inspired stuff ;0

yodude87

nice hi poly. one crit tho, the screws are way too big. try to shrink them a bit.

yodude87

Rick_D wrote: »

good to see some crysis 2 inspired stuff ;0

indeed, first thing that came to my mind was simon's portfolio haha

ayoub44

thanks alot guys for your comment and crits . in the concept that i have there is this props but it's very just basic shape . when i see simon work on crysis 2 i see it and make like my ref
thanks you again

ayoub44

hi , i strat working on udk but my scene look bad so bad . wath i'm going wrong ?




need some advice

Jeremy Wright

Can you be more specific?

ayoub44

it's loook ugly and i dont khnow why . i try to make it look better

ayoub44

UPDATE :



so i'm still working on this. the glass is just a placeholder . and still loking for glass tuto but they are very complicated to understand . hop you like it

EDIT : this is the concept i'm working from it ( crysis 2 )
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22638130/Battery_Park_street_05mood.jpg

Habboi

It looks "ugly" as you described it because the textures look low res and stretched. Also the lighting isn't doing it justice yet either.

Just concentrate on blocking out the scene first, then put the props in and then start working on lighting and shaders and it will look "nice".

ayoub44

shaders ? you mean textures right ? because i dont khnow the deffrence between textures and shader .... ??

jeremiah_bigley

texture is the map and a shader is...
a shader is all of it combined? All the settings and the way it interacts. Like a "material" in max.

Same thing.