Obama birth certificate
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so naturally this was expected to happen.. but i didnt think it would be this quick or this apparent.
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wow, five minutes in, and I can't take anymore of the BS. What angers me is that people will see this and completely believe it. They are acting as if they can access the separate layers of the released image.
update: Cross post... this is referencing the first post.
1. Make up conspiracy theories.
2. Scare the shit out of people.
3. Endorse products designed to alleviate those fears.
4. Profit from endorsement.
alex Jones may get some shit right from time to time... but he's still a fraud. I listened to him a couple of times, and during those times the main subject was how big agriculture is trying to force legislation to only allow farmers to grow their patented genetically altered seeds. Then during the commercial break he endorses "Seed bank" packets that people are supposed to buy that will help them sustain themselves in the event that big agriculture got their evil legislation passed.
He profits off of the fear that he instills in other people. plain and simple.
...especially after watching Canadian politics and getting depressed.
like finding bigfoot!
Yeah he's fucked in the head... you're completely right about the other stuff man, hit the nail on the head.
His guests are sometimes really good though. Also his website has some good writers.
I agree that this guy is a douche, and usually full of shit, but that's actually true, haha. At least according to Food, Inc.
Anyway, trying to profit from it is still a dick move.
Obama was in Grand Rapids Michigan, for those not savvy enough, it was 616. Obama won a majority vote there on October, he won a majority by 30 votes EXACTLY!
Make the math people! 616 + 30 = 646 + October (10 month) = 666, the number of the beast!
Not to forget, his book, Hope in which the ISBN number was the same of a Romanian gymnast who's score as of 2008 was the same date of book publication was, 616, a repeat of the previous number, essentially cycling the numbers in a loop.
Moreover, Romania is an EX Communistic country, chance to the wind? I say not!
His smile, very charismatic, maybe can even overpower Will Smith's smile? Think again, a creature from the sea will rise with a smile of a thousand charms, driving the world under it's looks, with the courage of a false tiger, and what does Obama do?
He rises with such a grin on his face, that literally blinds several people! All while pumping his chest forward!
I call dips on this when the world ends people, don't say I didn't say so!
PS: If you think honestly that I was being serious, please stick you head in a beehive.
PLUS, I heard he's got a pretty big dick!
When he whips it out, the whole room smells like a dick!
Download the .pdf file yourself from the whitehouse.gov website and see for yourself....
All the layers are there and are easily manipulated with any .pdf editing program....
It sure is suspicious. Martin H's youtube link tries to explain it, but it is very clear that it would be impossible to create the layers in the .pdf....
Look at the birth certificate zoomed in... even if it wasn't in layers it still looks heavily edited.
Ive read that they scanned the original (which was on a blue /whitish background)as a black and white image. Which was then printed onto the green patterned paper what we see here. Then Re-Scanned and uploaded as a PDF.
The printing from the original to the version with the green patterning was to replicate authenticty. As the official Hawaii government uses this type of paper.
So that explains most of the discrepencies everyone keep babbling on about.
THIS! A google search was all I needed to confirm this guys statement...and apparently it's true!
Which reminds, why do we have google if we're not going to use it?
Scanned documents can be brought in as layers like that from Optical Character Recognition.
Basically scanners try to separate text so it can be treated like text instead of an image (to be able to search text and things like that). This would also explain the whited out areas behind the text (I think the guy claims its white from erasing old text or something ridiculous.) When the text gets removed, something has to go in the layer underneath, so thats probably automatically created.
This can also explain the "computer created text" The reason the text doesn't have opacity from being hand drawn could easily be from a contrast/sharpness filter applied by the scanner.
I lol'd pretty hard at this.
Exactly this.
This!
US political slur aside, this guy clearly needs to pull his head out of his arse and do something meaningful with his life.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13631489 45 minutes in if you want the real.
Yeah, I originally missed that it was a PDF, because I was distracted by Alex Jones waging a war with his erection. He was going on about photoshop, and I thought initially that the other guy was making layers from selections in photoshop. Then I had to stop the video, because I couldn't take anymore of the interruptions of BS.
Still, watch the second video and it explains why the layers are like they are.
"Man I'm freaking out over it, and so are the photoshop experts"
And beware the CIA can make up videos, synthesize the voices and make anyone appear to be doing anything.
And if you want more expert info, you'd better ask the audience.
Running Man here we are. This is stupid on levels never before known.
Can we just go back to saying the titanic was an inside job of a submarien moving the ice berg into its path and get past this?
There are surely better, more objective websites to get your news.
For Alex Jones himself - I wouldn't put stock in anything he says about the way the world works. There are far better sources out there for that. He's a fear monger and a showman, not a political scientist. It'd be like getting your science news and views from a creationist site.
I would. Ya there is alot of fear mongering going on, as well as the fact that he's making a living off of selling people products based off of fear, but he does have some pretty fucking awesome points about the middle east, American foreign policy, and our rights being taken away on a daily basis . Yes, he's an extremist, and yes, there's obviously a conflict of interest when he's making money off selling fear, but that doesn't mean that some of his points aren't completely valid.
I personally think you should cut out the middle man who's selling you a line of BS and drudging up whatever he can to make it look like he has a valid point. And just go look at news from all over on your own. Why people need other people to interpret the news for them I'm not sure... the snake oil salesmen of today are making some amazing amounts of cash filtering the news and peddling their brand of truth. "listen to me! I'm the only guy that knows the real story! Oh and buy my books and DVD's, Tshirts, and come to my concerts!"
I'm much more interested in talking to people who aren't hard and fast on their version of the truth and are willing to debate and think about things with an open mind. I'm pretty sure if you explained how scanning a doc and PDF's worked to this guy he would just dig in deeper instead of admitting he's not a perfect expert on everything... Those people are dangerous and shouldn't get your time or attention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_44QQMcGo
Aliens and secret hidden lairs and shit, for sure
Honestly,you can find a good points made by almost anyone throughout history or the media. That doesn't mean that the person is a generally trustworthy source of opinions. So yeah, I'm sure he's said a couple of intelligent, valid things in his time. But that doesn't mean he's a good source for opinions or information.
In the same way you can be sure that the news on that website is not a fair or reasonable selection of worldwide news. It will be cherry picked to support his agenda. Yes, it's news from all over, but it's also news specifically chosen to make a point. Therefore, the site is untrustworthy.
Good point, there definitely are more trustworthy places to get international information. I've just looked at the site so long that i don't usually pay attention to any of the bs conspiracy stuff, and read only the financial / middle east stories that seem like they have relevance.
Check out Noam Chomsky. Fucking awesome source of information on pretty much everything international politics-wise.
~ MAKE YOUR OWN DEGREE WITH IT!!! WIN!!!!
You can have them do extra curricular activities and electives, such as washing your car, mowing your lawn, doing your laundry, making you lunch...
I think that only works with Karate.
the only people REALLY concerned about whether Obama is legitimate as president, are people who're jealous of his position. correct?
i mean... let's face it, the ability to lead a country has about as much to do with where they are born, as where the country itself is.
Racists too I think. :P
my girlfriend and i went to birmingham recently, and heard the fucking FUNNIEST thing i've ever heard.
we got into an elevator with a bunch of... well... black people. all speaking with a carribean accent. and the oldest of them a little old lady, with this thick old accent, said:
"i never thought i'd see the day... gettin' all up in here with the darkness... my my things have changed".
i almost pissed myself laughing haha.
meh. I don't think it is ALL about that, but really would you want someone born in let's say, North Korea or Iran running our country?
It is very simple to dismiss anything and everything today as "racist". That is the true extent of people's intelligence today I feel in politics.
We are still a Sovereign country I think(..?), and I for one am NOT for a "New World Order". I have heard some Americans talk about how they don't care...that is until our very way of life is changed forever by some d-bag who doesn't give ten shits about this country or the Constitution()Idea) it was founded upon.
So Yes, it does matter.
Let me just state in advance, no, I do believe Obama is American born. Does that mean I agree with anything he is doing right now? No. He is still a shit president in my books. Just continuing the same BS Bush did, yet people's face is turned the other way because of "race" or some other hypocritical garbage.
Amidst all of this celebration/talk on Usama Bin Laden's death, any of you bother to check the unemployment numbers? our rising debt and higher gas prices to which we are responded with a simple "deal with it"?
How's that "Hope and Change" working out for some of you?
Apparently OCR was already debunked since there was no search index for the .pdf, in which OCR sets up a search index for all the text in the document.
No, unless we change our Constitution. Are you familiar with it?