D9 antigravity gun

wester

I don't know what this gun is called...but i loved it. I can hardly find any reference pictures of it...so i'm improvising on alot of it.

I'm changing the handle when i get to it.

wester

Quick update on the gun.

onionhead_o

good start. u should think bout how it works like. wut type of ammo. how to reload it. maybe some moving parts would be great too. in the end it will help sell the model.

Diwan

Nice man.

wester

I can't really make up parts of the gun...this is an actual weapon from the film district 9.

Lonewolf

got ref?

wester

yeah, i have some of the shots from the movie and one of them is when Vikis pulls out this gun and starts blastin d00ds!

i'll post some up when i've finished the highpoly.

onionhead_o

sry my bad. wester I didnt c D9 on the title.

nrek

Cool dude, this was my fav gun in the movie for sure. Looks like your off to a good start.

wester

nrek- yeah it was mine too unfortunately it had a very small part in the film so.

Here's the finished Highpoly. I'm going to start on the Lowpoly.

thegreypencil

yea I like it

Show em textures man!

PixelGoat

Can we see the refs you are using? I don´t remember the main body being quite that "square" and hard edged in the movie, could be wrong though.

wester

Here are some of my reference pictures

willy-wilson

found this online thought it might be a little helpfull

http://www.j6x2.com/2009/09/15/district-9-gun-2/

PixelGoat

I stand corrected

Taylor Hood

Nice one

wester

willy- starting over haha.

thatnumpty

those sketches are not official and looking at your movie screen caps they are inaccurate. you could use them as a base then adjust your model after the real thing.

imb3nt

I love the look of that gun.

very stout.

wester

I definitely need help on this gun. I've been baking down to my lowpoly..and i'm getting all of these weird normal issues that i've never really had before. Maybe i'm messing up some settings or something.

Any help?

Autocon

Need a little more info on how your baking this.

I know you modeled this in Max but

Is it being baked in Xnormal?
Cage? No Cage?
Overlapping where?
Whats your LP look like?
Smoothing Groups?

wester

im baking it in max
there is a cage
no overlapping

and with smoothing groups, i usually put each piece on it's own smoothing group unless there's a 90 degree angle or more

here's the LP

Autocon

Hey Wes here are some suggestions for cleaning this model up. Dont know your exact baking error but these are some things i think you should fix first.



Green means chamfer. Its only done on places with low geo and places you want to catch highlights and help your smoothing groups for normals.

Red means remove geo. Your cylinders seem really heavy on the geo when it dosnt help the shilhouete at all. Or its to small to be worth the 20 sided cylindar.



It also seems like you tapered off some of the cylinders as they got smaller like on the front two piston things but not on any of the rest.

EDIT: how dose this guy look from first person mode? I know you didnt design the gun but it would be an added plus if it looked great from that view too.

HAL

He is perfectly safe to use smoothing groups at the green edges you sugested, as long as he splits the uv's.

At least from my experience this will result in a way easier mesh to unwrap.

Also clean up that mess at the indent you have there Oo

Mark.N

I used to get all sorts of weird little errors like this when I first started doing high > low using Max to generate my maps. Swapping over to use xNormals cleaned up at least 60% of those from the get go (Call it lack of experience with the cage or whatever, but xNormals works a hell of a lot better for me).

The other thing I would do, and I'm assuming you're doing this but just in case, break the mesh down into it's main elements and bake each one individually.

I tend to go with what HAL said over Anthony and use smoothing groups instead of chamfers, just make sure you don't have any near 90 degree intersections wrapped into the same shell, it can cause issues and weird smoothing errors.