In case you didn't notice... (DOMINANCE WAR 4!)

ChaosEidolon

...looks like things are getting fired up for Dominance War 4.

http://www.dominancewar.com/

Every year, some ridiculous shit has come up to keep me from finishing my entry. No excuses this time. If i dont do it this year...i swear to god...i give all of you permission to come shit on my doorstep.

Wahlgren

It seems like there´s always some kind of delay. Yeah i know its a big ass huge comp and he should have all the kudos and backslaps in the world for it but goddamn. Is there always a delay?

I actually automatically assume theres a delay for everything. Hell. It´s the only reason i finished last last time. *cough*

Anyway. Really looking forward to it and it´s perfect timing. I need to create a portfolio from scratch and a character would be happy in there.

ChaosEidolon

Yeah dude, i dunno what the deal is. Seems like fred always has trouble getting it together when its down to the line.

Time to get a secretary if you ask me...

rooster

waaaaay too early to get excited

Mark Dygert

The pre pre pre pre announcement... sweet.

Here's how it goes for me:
Tonight the new site will launch (2 weeks from now)
End of Feb, Dom4 launches (mid March, I've lost all excitement and am too busy)
Comp ends ?? (this time next year)

bounchfx

yeah i've said the same shit since the first one, maybe this time. hah.

seforin

perna wrote: »

I will totally enter and make at least 3 posts for this years domwar

be a Rebel and go for 4

Emil Mujanovic

rooster wrote: »

waaaaay too early to get excited

No more needs to be said.

-caseyjones

Jesse Moody

Maybe I can just piece together the other 3 models that I never finished into some sick hybrid incest raged monster and still not finish.

Dusty

I think if I combine all my other unfinished entries into one giant one it will be impressive.

HAY YOU COPIED ME IN THE PAST!

adam

Fred's a one-man show organizing (now) 2 major 3D game art competitions with hundreds of entries and multiple communities.

For free.

Expect delays.

killingpeople

You like the delays, admit it.

East

It's a nitpick, but I kinda wish the placeholder website wouldn't look so much like a splash page for a Dungeons & Dragons fan website from 1998. Very disconcerting..

ChaosEidolon

Don't get me wrong, Fred's the man for putting on the show, but I think it's hurting the incredible franchise he's created for himself. With so many people's eyes on this, and so many possible investors looking at it, you really want to deliver when you say you intend to.

I have no doubt he'd get a trove of volunteers too if he only asked for em, even if he couldn't pay. It would be a great bullet point on the resume of anyone trying to get into the gaming biz.

He's nailed just about everything else, seems like a small fix to make. Then again, maybe it's his secret trick to get everyone frothing at the mouth...free publicity.

East

I don't think it's a very successful secret trick. Like Vig pointed out, I too get excited about it when it's time to get excited, but because of delays that fire kinda burns out prematurely. I think this happened to a lot of people last time.

Rob Galanakis

adamBrome wrote: »

Fred's a one-man show organizing (now) 2 major 3D game art competitions with hundreds of entries and multiple communities.

For free.

Expect delays.

I have to respectfully disagree, as a fellow webmaster and community member. I know how hard it is to keep free promises and deliver extracurriculars on time, as much as anyone. But this is also the fourth time around and DomWar has passed the point of being just another community sideproject, with its donations, sponsorships, etc., in addition to its popularity. I'm a stickler for being punctual and delivering on promises, and at this point, GA/Fred/DW should be delivering on promises, doing this for free or not. It reflects badly and is a negative impact on the project.

Yeah I know it is a dick thing to criticize someone who puts this sort of thing together for nothing but glory, but it is an honest criticism. Granted I could be all wrong if things are on time this year, and I hope they are and I am.

Richard Kain

Crap man. I want to make this my news-years resolution. I've never gotten past the concept stage for the Dominance War. This year, its a complete entry or bust. That's my resolution. Another resolution is to create a minimum 3-minute animation. I freaking love the Dominance War!

Blaizer

the last time i could not pass the concept stage due to lack of time, let's see if this time the thematic is enough good and the more important thing... if i have time hehehe

I'm sure europeans won't be applicable for material prizes as always XD

pliang

This will be something not on my resolution that I'll be sure to enter as most resolution things tend to go bust.

It will be a great learning experience.

Josh_Singh

The waiting does get annoying, but when it does come, it hits hard.

Gav

Can't wait for this thing to start. I think I'm going to fight for PC this time around and abandon my CGSociety ways...

adam

Rob Galanakis wrote: »

I have to respectfully disagree, as a fellow webmaster and community member. I know how hard it is to keep free promises and deliver extracurriculars on time, as much as anyone. But this is also the fourth time around and DomWar has passed the point of being just another community sideproject, with its donations, sponsorships, etc., in addition to its popularity. I'm a stickler for being punctual and delivering on promises, and at this point, GA/Fred/DW should be delivering on promises, doing this for free or not. It reflects badly and is a negative impact on the project.

Yeah I know it is a dick thing to criticize someone who puts this sort of thing together for nothing but glory, but it is an honest criticism. Granted I could be all wrong if things are on time this year, and I hope they are and I am.

Point made.

Sure, it can be annoying. But if you or anyone strongly feel this way about something you have nothing to lose over but time and everything to gain like cash, prizes and a huge amount of exposure then don't enter. Right?

Additionally, this is related to the videogame industry afterall. To expect anything BUT delays is silly

EDIT: Holy shit this is cool - http://www.gameartisans.org/dominancewar/publicity/gallery_gstar_08.html

Emil Mujanovic

Gavimage wrote: »

Can't wait for this thing to start. I think I'm going to fight for PC this time around and abandon my CGSociety ways...

I said it last year and I'll say it again this year, you're a fucking champ

-caseyjones

adam

Hey hey, the website is NOW LIVE:

http://www.gameartisans.org/dominancewar/index.htm

RazorBladder

OH NO!

PixelMasher

my god has it been a year already!? i remeber the character artists at the studio workin away on this, seems like only a few months ago. god damn time flies by fast. dunno if ill enter but its alllllllways inspirational to be bombarded see such kick ass art on all fronts.

Rens

So soon already!? damn i must live in a cave.

"Finally the storm arrives
Our wait is at an end
Under dark winter skies
We make our final stand"

JohnnyRaptor

lol last year, i got as far as making a concept, this year i aim at going as far as starting the 3d highres mesh. By around Dominance War 7, i will reach the point where i actually manage to finish the lowpoly :P

monkeyboy_garth

Why do all those entries on display have a CGLand logo??

Jonathan

Yay, another competition to enter and not finish.

rollin

aj... letzz see

Wells

mini-challenges, eh?

hmm...

moose

whoa!!! that exhibition is fucking sweet! thats impressive!

edit: dang, exhibitionSSSS. thats cool.

kolbyjukes

yeah, I'm totally doing it this year. It's gonna be fun.

parasyte7

Hey Kolby, want to do a joint one? You model, texture and pose while I put my name on it.

Junkie_XL

I've had my eye on these DW competitions for a while now. How does this work? Must you go it alone from concept to finish? Or can you team up with others?

Would someone like to team up with me? I understand the production pipeline quite well. I feel I have a pretty good eye for modeling detail, I am just not the best concept artist. I pretty much have no life so you can guarantee I would put my all into something like this.

Re-creating inspiring concept art is something I really love to do...if the team thing is possible that is. I need something like this that pushes me to finish and I need to add more work to my portfolio anyway. Monsters & mechanical terrors are my favorite genre so this looks fun.

ChaosEidolon

It depends really. In the past they allowed joint efforts, but they had a reversal last year and said that you had to do your own design. Seems a little silly considering game pipelines rarely have the modeler do their own concepts.

A lot of people complained about that last year though, so i guess we'll see.

kolbyjukes

parasite7 wrote: »

Hey Kolby, want to do a joint one? You model, texture and pose while I put my name on it.

lol sounds like an awesome plan, let's do it. Oh, BTW, i got your Christmas card, thanks dude, I've got it proudly displayed in my office.

parasyte7

kolbyjukes wrote: »

lol sounds like an awesome plan, let's do it. Oh, BTW, i got your Christmas card, thanks dude, I've got it proudly displayed in my office.

No problem man. Glad you liked it.

You hear that guys. I (with maybe a little help from Kolby) will win this competition!

b1ll

pffff

parasyte7

You jealous Ben?

Spark

Kolby you got a xmas card! I didn't get one parasite:( sniff sniff. Hahah, ahh well maybe next year right:) I plan on trying again this year, since we won't be expecting a gift package in the shape of a son, so I should be a little less stressed this year.

Spark

P.S: b1ll, pfffff means your joining the fight this year right, as you need to finish one so I can put it into my inspiration folder!!!!

b1ll

well YEAH kenny, I thought I was ur favorite. I AM SAD! Your holiday card was hanging on the wall ... SAD!!

LOl Spark, YA i will this time, got myself a new rig , IM ALL SET!.

ill see if i can put it in my schedule! YES!


I want to see u enter to Spark, YES! YES!

Emil Mujanovic

Junkie_XL wrote: »

I've had my eye on these DW competitions for a while now. How does this work? Must you go it alone from concept to finish? Or can you team up with others?

Would someone like to team up with me? I understand the production pipeline quite well. I feel I have a pretty good eye for modeling detail, I am just not the best concept artist. I pretty much have no life so you can guarantee I would put my all into something like this.

Re-creating inspiring concept art is something I really love to do...if the team thing is possible that is. I need something like this that pushes me to finish and I need to add more work to my portfolio anyway. Monsters & mechanical terrors are my favorite genre so this looks fun.

The first 2 Dominance Wars you were able to get help with your concept, and/or you were allowed to have another artist create an original concept for you. Which previously just meant, "hey, gauss. Can I plz has 1 units of art. kthnxbye".
For the last war, this was disallowed, and everything had to be your own work. Critiquing and paintovers were fine, but the end concept had to be entirely your own work. I think this was mainly done due to the introduction of the 2D entries for the competition.

-caseyjones

gavku

I hope they do lift the restriction on collab...was the only disappointing thing about the last Dominance imo...

rooster

must stay calm.. must stay calm..
everyone stop talking about it!

achmedthesnake

wooo! maybe just maybe ill enter this one......

Marine

caseyjones wrote: »

I think this was mainly done due to the introduction of the 2D entries for the competition.

thought it was because hawkprey, ror and moose were going to team up/win

Parnell

I've always seen Dom War as the ultimate character artist competition. Where 1 person concepts, models, textures, rigs, renders their entry. It's all about dominating. So I preferred the 1 vs 1 battle, instead of a 1 vs. a team of people. Dom War 2 was getting a bit out of hand when you'd have 3+ people all working on a single entry. If Dom War 3 didn't disallow this I was going to outsource my entire Dom War entry and then slap my name on it.
I'm glad they did the concept art and 3D split.
B

eboy

Very true modeling_man. I think it's best it stays a 1 man team. At the end of the day wouldn't you feel more satisfied you did everything yourself, especially if you won something. I understand in the industry it doesn't usually work like this but surely this can be a welcome opportunity?

Zwebbie

Great! The Dominance War is always one of my favourite times of the year, because there's such a ton of inspirational work to be found. I wouldn't want to miss out on it.

The only thing that I'm a bit worried about is that apparently there are now 12 websites in the competition. I rather liked that cozy Polycount-CGChat scale of the first competition better.