Street Fighter 4
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HADOUKEN!!!!
Site is getting heavily hammered and it's just being unveiled at this minute so some patience must be had for all
this is the thread for it though
Site is getting heavily hammered and it's just being unveiled at this minute so some patience must be had for all
this is the thread for it though
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But other than that, I loved it. The visuals were very impressive and the fighting looked intense, albeit much slower than the game itself.
Per, the previous 3D Street Fighter games did relatively well, actually.
seantree, wtf, that video is like the pure opposite of what SF is about. Unless you're talking about how well they do "2d in 3d"?
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Sorry, I should have clarified. That is exactly what I meant. Damn, 2008 is gonna be great for fighting fans. KOFXII and SF4, ST:HD, and hopefully a KOF:Maximum Impact Regulation A release in the states. Which, btw, is the only game I think nailed the transition from 2D to 3D properly.
Ken Masters will own the Earth AGAIN!
also, I am not a normal Ken player. Normal teir Ken is played using the shoryureppa, but I use Shinryuken.
I am own.
As long as it lives up to Third Strike, then I'll be a happy man. Hanging to see some gameplay vids though.
-caseyjones
Very modern though isn't it?
I hope they go back to the roots, but at the end of the day - unless they add tons of new stuff no ones gonna buy it...
1. no parries
2. no air blocking
3. no whiffed attacks to build meter. Give meter for being offensive and give penalties for turtling i.e. the guilty gear series.
4. Alpha counters or something of the sort would be nice.
5. Keep universal overheads from SF3
6. Last but not least,and only sort of SF related give us another Vampire game built on the new engine . As soon as I saw the teaser I thought how good the Vampire characters would look in that style. That's if the final game even resembles the trailer. Heh, just got the SF4 announcement and I already want Bishamon and gang back
yeah..parrying is a must. The only reason most people hate it is because they suck at using it
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QFT! My housemate cracks the shits when we play Third Strike, because I tend to parry most of his attacks and he rarely parries mine. If parries are taken out, then I don't see myself playing SF4.
-caseyjones
As for goin back to the roots, I could see them doin something similar to Super turbo as that is THE SF game to the top players.
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The top game for competitive players is Third Strike.
Why would anyone want to take out parrying? Learning to parry, cancel, supercancel, buffer, etc puts you on that extra level that makes the game so much more fun for advanced players. The reason 3S has taken over the scene is because it has all of the advanced tactics, not the other way around. If people wanted a simpler version then Alpha3 would be the most popular.
That being said, I hope they don't oversimplify it. That seems to be what Sakurai is doing to SSBB. It seems they took out a lot of advanced things so far (wavedashing might be gone, L cancelling seems automatic, edges take priority over recovery moves, etc) and to be honest it takes the fun out of playing so much. It is like giving everyone in WoW an automatic level 70 with tier 1 gear.
With that said I have wanted a SF4 for years now, and I am just hoping that whoever is developing it does a great job. In fact, it could be someone who posts here. Capcom USA has the rights to the Street Fighter series now.
Here's hoping they add to an already superb fighter in SFIII:TS instead of going somewhere new or else ala EX.
First off you have to realize, these 3 were taught with the same fighting style, and in the same circle. Goutetsu taught Gouken and Gouki. Gouken taught Ken and Ryu. There is a reason they are similar.
But they are also different.
Gouki the fastest of the 3. he was super fast. His damage was decent, and his ability to wrangle your opponent is definitely the best in the game. His major weaknesses, besides being extremely weak as far as health and defense, is his under-whelmingly powerless supers, minus the shun goku satsu. He also had no ex abilities, BUT had his kongou kokuretsuzan.
Ryu was definitely the strongest of the 3. he could pull more power into his basic punches than either ken or gouki. his hadouken is way stronger and faster than gouki or ken, and his supers are stronger than Gouki's, especially his shin shoryuken. He had access to ex moves.
Ken, he only has one version of the hadouken, ryu and gouki both have at least 2 (gouki 3 if you count his air hadouken). His main power comes from his shoryuken based moves. His punches are harder than gouki's but weaker than ryu, and he doesn't have the speed of gouki. His main strength is definitely in his finishers. His shoryu reppa and shippu jinrai kyaku are his best and most powerful moves.
They also have great tricks. Ken can shoryuken on a dime, especially after being taken down and on the way up on a rebound.
Gouki's tatsumaki senpuu kyaku can actually take down a crouching block because he's able to spin behind his opponent fast enough to hit him before the auto block turns him towards gouki.
This game is deep, and so are it's fighters. There is a lot of distinction between the 3 now. I can't wait to see them progress Ken's cockiness, Ryu's patience and Gouki's rage even further in their different move sets with SFIV.
Without parrying we would never have the below, EOD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7hkwbKmBM
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That's the vid that got me into Third Strike. Fucking blew my mind!
-caseyjones
Are the Streetfighter 3 series available for any consoles and which is the best version I should try?
The xbox version has online play and backwards compatible with 360.. it's obviously the right choice
damn you SF: Generations!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzci1LZFuMI
They will most likely not better Third Strike. They are going up against a near perfect game. The only thing they could do is remix 3rd strike in HD with double the roster, and possibly 3d backgrounds. Only way in my mind they could not jinx themselves. That trailer looked pretty bad. I like the effects, but the characters just looked like EX leftovers.
I hope they don't go back to the roots. The roots really sucked. Hard. 4 punches round over
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You obviously never played Hyper Fighting. Easily the best one ever. Super and Super Turbo literally ruined the series. All the amazing tourney players quit after Hyper Fighting.
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I hope they go back to the roots, but at the end of the day - unless they add tons of new stuff no ones gonna buy it...
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The core gameplay in SFIII was definitely "back to the roots" after the jap-tastic spectacle the zero/alpha games turned into. They've been very careful with the games and always had a great understanding of hard core players, so personally I'm very excited.
What they did with SFIII, of course, was give you very basic and hard core gameplay out of the box, then offer unlockables that let you configure the game as you wanted. Here's wishing for the same in the next game, as that was pure fucking gold
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I totally disagree. SF3 is absolutely nothing like SF2:CE and Hyper Fighting. Not to say that SF3 isn't a good game by today's standards. I just prefer the SF2 style of game, which leaned more towards anticipation, reaction times, hitbox distance finessing, and coming up with a personal strategy. Watching the top players in the Hyper Fighting days (Tomo, Mike Watson), you can see how each player put his own unique spin on a character yet still was able to be amazing at the game. In SF3, all the top players play the same strategies. It's just not as fun when you play near the top level of a game.
http://ggpo.net/
the connections are nice. only supports A2 and MvC at the moment, but more games are planned. I'll be on tomorrow. tag will be seantree
"I'll start with the basic answer that will diffuse the majority of questions here:
We've announced Street Fighter 4 to let everyone know it's in development. We aren't really providing any more information than that at this time, but over the coming months, you'll see bits and pieces come to light. Platforms especially aren't being discussed.
While CUSA owns the rights to Street Fighter, we have contracted Capcom Japan to handle its development (we felt they would, by far, do the best job with the title).
The game is further along in development than probably most of you think, but as we've stated, it's still quite a ways off. Again, the announcement was just to get it on everyone's radar, nothing more.
Beyond that no one at Capcom will speak about characters returning, character count, platforms, features, 2D or 3D or 2.5D, whether the trailer is representative of gameplay/character design/visual targets, arcade or not, online features, downloadable strategy, where it fits in the canon, etc.
All of that will be revealed over time... the next bits will be revealed a bit later this year.
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yay for capcom japan!!!
can we restart our SF character design comp? cos i'm fkn pumped!
[/ QUOTE ]How about we get someone to choose a winner of the previous one first? Its only been a year.
I just never know where to start.
You'd have to work hard to beat me at the alpha games however, I've never been as hard core about any other game.
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I'd give you a run at Alpha2 for sure. Alpha was horrible though, and they did the new-age, capcom crazy combo stuff in SFA3.
-caseyjones
haha
dunno why got into a crazy fighters fit last few days,
mainly marvel VS capcom 2, and SF3 3rd strike, and oddly enough, killer instinct 2...
However, parrying is pretty damn pimp.
I've always found SF2: Turbo for the SNES to be my fav. I liked SF3 but no one i knew played it. After that I just got lost in the sea of alpha, beta, gamma phi tri delta shit.
SF Vs. Capcom, Vs. Marvel, Vs. Family Guy, Vs. Snorks just too much...plus all the combo crap (hit 8 buttons in a row ALA MK3 just got stupid too) i loved combos where you had to time all your hits just right to get the opponent in a dizzy after another dizzy, not just make 2 fireball motions and press all 3 punches.
I'm sure most of the stuff I'm not crazy about will make it in, I'm just psyched they are making a new one.
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