Firebrand/Red Arremer v4 *nsfw*

CheapAlert

Yes, my fourth version of the guy, except this time i'm taking the normal map route.

He's probably going in Quake4 and UT2007 (in the future), so I dun't want to dig up my older ut2k4 fb thread for this hi-poly guy. Besides, this mesh is different than the one the other thread was about anyway. The new low-poly mesh is going in UT2004 however, and maybe Q3A (it's only 2610 triangles)

anyhow, I just need to tweak the hands, back of legs and the wing "hands" now, as well as give him an all-new set of bracers. Since my last update in the WIP thread he now has his head reshaped a bit, and some torso tweakage.

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/fb50.jpg
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/fb50h.jpg (head shot)
http://planetgargoyle.com/models/fb51.jpg (Torso shot)

Sharper and smaller details will be sculpted later on (i.e. navel, muscle edges, ear, etc) once I get sharpconstruct working (doesn't start).

Vailias will be animating him for ut2k4 and maybe ut2k7 if the psk/psa formats don't change too much.

ironbearxl

wow cheap this is your best work yet!
Can you post some wires?

Toomas

Overall good work, the neck looks like a mess tho, get some pics and see how it should look like.

Ninjas

His cock should be bigger. Other than that, you have come a long way.

the wing muscles should be more like his arm muscles. Tie the upper muscles in with the lower.

IceWolve

The one question i have is, does your models really need to have genitalia for video game models? Unless your making some sort of gargoyle porn machinema or just modeling it for modeling. But i always see these models go into some sort of quake mod of yours.

Ohter than that the model is looking good. Though around the base of the nck in the center looks odd.

Zeldrik

ICeWolve cans you see why they shouldnt?
Im guessing cheap wants to show a more animalistic view of the gargoyle which results in showing genitals...either that or he just likes to model cock

You're improving in leaps and bounds lately cheap, definately your best work.

aesir

hey cheapy, this isnt really related to the model youre working on right now, but in IRC you said you were trying to find a new gargoyle to model. I found one I thought was cool.

http://forum.coowow.com/noncgi/attach/2005/03/31/15028--embed.jpg


As far as your model goes, the muscles seem to be defined to strongly. Probably a stylistic choice on your part, but I just think it was look better if you used some subtetly

EarthQuake

You really gotta model the eyes seperately for it to look right man, just having a buldge there to represent and eye dosent quite work

Slash

I think i have seen roughly a zillion versions of this character from you by now.

Good thing they are improving tho..

CheapAlert

he's got junk because he needs some "r&r" after saving the world from demons, things and raping knight arthur all way too many times.

aesir - too bobotheimp-ish.

Anyhow, some more updates, particularly the face

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/fb60.jpg
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/fb61.jpg
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/fb62.jpg
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/fb63.jpg

ElysiumGX

it's amazing how the cock is modeled with such a high standard of anatomical accuracy...yet the shoulders are waaaay off.

snemmy

shouldnt the penis be a couple of inches lower? the structure of a penis runs from back near the anus along the pelvic floor and breaks the trunk of the body at just under the pubic bone. right now it looks as though you have it coming off the front of the pelvic bone

ive noticed that from all the garg wang pics you've shown as reference. they might be shaped right but the placement always seems to be pretty off..

okay i feel dirty now.. very very dirty...

and it's good to see you are getting better at your modeling... you just seem to have this fixation i cant quite put my finger on ;p

swampbug

nice forskin. the model is a great improvement from your other gargs.

Matabus

gross.

MoP

Why is he walking around with his foreskin half-pulled back?

Daz

You beat me to it MoP. The problem with the foreskin half rolled back like that, is it suggests a semi-erection, and that's the bit that's weirding me out and unecessary.

EarthQuake

Cool eyes look better now.

HALF CHUB FOR THE WIN

CheapAlert

yeah, perhaps his current semi erection (where it's only stretched and slightly stiffened) would benefit rigging better than flaccid. Actually I needed to do that so I could fit the glans in the opening (yeah it's modeled eye-style, bet nobody did that before)

i did fix the penis a bit, and reworked his neck a bit, and deleted the membrane polys as it's not needed, same for the bracers as they're getting a bump patterh rather than a normal map

http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/fb68.jpg
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/fb69.jpg because some love it, here's the dramatic up close penis shot
http://www.planetgargoyle.com/models/fbr6.jpg fun toon shaded render.
EXCUSE TIME:
by the way guys, he's supposed to have some exaggerated muscle features and not just a simple superhero build (which would be boring and not cool imo). he's an anime-styled monster after all, so i have to get picky with any muscle crits or otherwise he'll lose his fb shape and look

PeteJ

you cant use that excuse either!
the model looks particularly bulky and im sure you can slim hmi down and make him more beleivable and not lose "that firebrand look"
to me all the refs you've used show him as a very cut superhero build, so just look at some cut powerlifters and tone down that muscle mass.
however your wang is perfect.