High poly russian girl

EarthQuake

So i watched the bourne supremacy last night for the second time and finally got motivated enough to model the girl in the end of the movie that made orthos for the first time I saw it. If anyone hasnt seen it or dosent remember who im talking about just go here: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Pier/6163/oksana1.html
I was gonna do her for the "model an actor" contest thing but i didnt feel like waiting and shes pretty obscure anyway.
The hair needs work and is kinda temp until i feel like doing it better, the face is about finished unless anyone notices anything wrong or has any idea on how to increase the likeness.
wires of the head:

smooth with commie hat:

SouL

Careful with the cheek. It's not the bubbly mass most people think it is. It's actually fairly flat looking from the side. It has a very soft and gradual transition into the bridge of the nose. The lower bags of the eyes cut into the cheek mass quite a bit, too.

EarthQuake

Oooooooh thanks soul! Ill tweak it some more
heres a WIP on the new hair, i feel so faggy modeling hair.... just the bangs so far:

Thermidor

its looking good EQ, nice to see soul posting like that , its so relevant to the problems in your model ...
mind you , i have to say your topoligy is looking great, this is proper sub-d tho ..

the hair is looking great so far.

Daz

Looking good EQ. I think the eyeshape is a little strange. If you mirrored each eye horizontally the shape would almost look more correct I think. Plus see If you can get a sharper crease where the side of the nostrils meet the face perhaps?

EarthQuake

Ok more hair, its looking pretty flat so ill probally add some more layers to the longer hair

gauss

hair looks like it really needs to less glued to her skull, unless she's going for the wet look good work so far though EQ, she's really shaping up to be one of your best.

Enix

I like it alot, but why not just alpha map the hair? Not so you can save polys, cause obviously there is no poly limit . But instead to have more natural looking hair, instead of a bunch of clumps of hair. Just a thought , I know alot of modelers dont like to bother with alpha maping, but i find it quite usfull. But I do like the current texture.

Steve Schulze

Hey, I've got eyes like that Daz.

I think you might need to make the lower eye lids bigger and more defined. She also needs some tearducts which should make the eye shape look more 'right'.

EarthQuake

Gauss: Yeah the hair is a little "glued" down but thats because most of it will be under the hat and im modeling it all so i can get the proper form to it

Enix: I dont really like how the alpha looks but i do have an alpha map for it, you need a bunch of layers for that to actually look right and i will be making a low poly model out of this when im done so i wont be go crazy with the layers.

Jack: Yeah she does need tearducts i dont know why i havent added them yet.

The hair is pretty much done and heres a link to a 360 degree spining gif, i would just include it in the page but its like 550K
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/crash/earthquake/oksanaspin.gif

EarthQuake

CB pointed out that the bangs look pretty unnatural so i made it flow with the part of the hair and it looks better now. I plan on taking some screengrabs from the film tonight and ill probally model a little bit of her jacket and fix up any other issues that i notice when i watch the scene im modeling her from again, the hat and hair i just modeled from memory so they are probally a little off.

tubboy

too chubby in comparison to the Drawing. The drawing gives more cheek defenition.

EarthQuake

What drawing are you talking about? she isnt based off of soul's paintings there if thats what you're talking about tubboy.

Daz

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What, whereby they are their widest vertically toward the outer sides of the head, as opposed to in the middle? You must be pretty odd looking then. Look at these eyes. I defy you to find me one pair whereby the height of the eye is at its greatest anywhere other than the middle ( pretty much in vertical line with the iris )

http://home.comcast.net/~dpattenden/images/Eyestemp.jpg

Actually, there is one, on the middle right of the image, and thats because the eyeball is looking left, forcing a shape change of the eyelid.

EQ: your eyeshape is at its widest vertically towards the outer edges of the face, whereas it should be at its widest vertically in the middle. Thats why it looks odd imo.

Heres a quick sketch I did of her left eye. Where on top is what I see as a classic 'correct' eyeshape, and bottom is yours:

EarthQuake

Daz: yeah i see what you mean and i've updated it a little since the pic that looks like your drawing. I added a sweater and did some little tweaks on her face to make her look more like the reference im using too:

EarthQuake

Well that sure was fun, i chopped her down to a 1531 poly model and threw on some auto generated UVs to make test normals.... too bad lw wont render tangent space so it looks like i wont be able to mirror anything on the uvs =/

killingpeople

very nice earthquake, me and you mother are proud.

EarthQuake

Texture WIP!

EarthQuake

hahaha zombie girl that looks so bad now!

[edit] Sweater!

JBoskma

Why are you texturing it like a low poly model?

EarthQuake

Because its fun to paint it like that, i might not even use normal maps at all for her...

rawkstar

oh god please not the funny hat, dude u gots to tweak that ushanka for real, it looks weird as hell, they're a hell of alot more organic looking than what u got there, its mostly fur, theres usually nothing to keep it stiff like that. it looks like a helmet right now or something. oh and make it dark brown or something. ANd she needs redder cheeks ... its cold outside you know other than that I'd say she's hawt

EarthQuake

Small update, took out some of the darker tones i had on her face and gave her some red cheeks too, hat is still WIP soon ill get some shots of her normal mapped