Gun model critiques

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

Hi everyone,

I am still a little new to 3D modeling and I was wondering if I can get some critiques from anyone willing to give some. If there is any suggestions of methods or tutorials that are helpful please share it. It would be very helpful.

This was my first time modeling something more complex. I am quite proud of how this model came up but I still feel like more could be done.

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This was when a had a little bit more experience and wanted to try to add more detail. There is still some detail messing from the gun but I am planning on going back and working on it a little more.

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Brian "Panda" Choi · Jan 2018

The renders are nice, though it would help if there were more contrast between the background and object.

You're missing a lot of medium details present in gun anatomy. Bolt slide, certain lines along the metal, indentations or plates sitting on top of certain areas. This is more prevalent in the shotgun than tommy gun. For ths shotgun, where do bullets go in and where do bullet cases get ejected? I do not see anything modeled for those.

Solutions wise, I would encourage you to look into boolean modeling and medium poly modeling methodologies to get more comfortable cutting out or making those more complex shapes.

You have a good sensse of proportion, but just to double check, place your model against profile views of the gun.

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

Yeah I see what you're saying. I will go back and make changes and look into those methods you told me. Thanks this really helps

Brian "Panda" Choi · Jan 2018

What software are you using to model this?

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

For the Tommy gun used Maya and for the Shotgun I used Blender

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

For the Tommy gun I have to get back with you on my references I made that model on a different computer and that folder has my references.

This was the Shotgun I was modeling

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

Yeah it’s been awhile since I worked on that model taking a look back at it I definitely need to pay more attention to detailed.

NightDrake3D · Jan 2018

I feel like you would likely benefit more if you split the shotgun into seperate pieces... like the stock, shoulder pad, breach, etc all on their own pieces..

That way each piece is easier to model.

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

NightDrake3D said:

I feel like you would likely benefit more if you split the shotgun into seperate pieces... like the stock, shoulder pad, breach, etc all on their own pieces..

That way each piece is easier to model.

Yeah I see what you are say. I had that plan in mind when i was gonna go make changes. Thanks for the feedback.

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

I made some changes to the shotgun I made in blender. I try to add some texture to it too. Any critiques would be very helpful

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JordanN · Jan 2018

I think you need to look at your reference of the wood stocks again. The waves are highly tight and creates an almost moire pattern.

Do you also have any roughness and bump maps for it? The stock material you have right now is looking too smooth. For realism, you'll want more wear and tear.

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

Ok I will go back and make adjustments. And no I didn’t put a roughness or bump on the stock. I was wondering how I would I get that pattern u just told me and imma go back to make it. Thank you

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

I try to go back and make more improvements to the shotgun. I was told to try and add some bump and roughness. This was my attempted on it. If anyone wants to see my node setup to get a better look at what I'm doing just let me know.

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Hear are some close ups too

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Brian "Panda" Choi · Jan 2018

Much better.

Any close ups for the receiver? We should start covering texturing.

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

Brian "Panda" Choi said:

Much better.

Any close ups for the receiver? We should start covering texturing.

May you be talking about this part

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Brian "Panda" Choi · Jan 2018

Mhm. Textures are reading flat and not very metallic. What texturing software packages do you have access to?

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

For this project I was trying to use the nodes from blender to try and make textures. But for image textures I get online I bring them into substance b2m to make my textures maps

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

I also have substance painter but I can't run it on my laptop at this moment

Markmars · Jan 2018

Hi!

I advise you to study the tutorial

https://youtu.be/Z9wgKy-F1Rw

https://youtu.be/9MYGCdf9VHs

and weapons.

Good luck!

YaboyZay · Jan 2018

Ok I will. Thank you for the tutorial

Alex_J · Jan 2018

When you are building characters they say that the more you know about anatomy, the better you are going to be able to get some of those important details that most people might not realize are there, but when they are missing everybody will know something just doesn't look right.

In the case of firearms, something that may help you more readily identify some of the pieces you are missing is just knowing some standard gun terminology. If you like modeling things like this and want to continue to improve, you might consider studying just basic firearm 101 you can find on google. Just enough to know the names of the big pieces, and in a general sense what they do, you certainly don't need ot be a gunsmith at all, but knowing common parts names will also help you communicate better with other artist who are doing similar work and sharing advice.

YaboyZay · Feb 2018

BIGTIMEMASTER said:

When you are building characters they say that the more you know about anatomy, the better you are going to be able to get some of those important details that most people might not realize are there, but when they are missing everybody will know something just doesn't look right.
In the case of firearms, something that may help you more readily identify some of the pieces you are missing is just knowing some standard gun terminology. If you like modeling things like this and want to continue to improve, you might consider studying just basic firearm 101 you can find on google. Just enough to know the names of the big pieces, and in a general sense what they do, you certainly don't need ot be a gunsmith at all, but knowing common parts names will also help you communicate better with other artist who are doing similar work and sharing advice.

Ok I see what you are saying. Thanks for the advice

AlexRodriguez · Feb 2018

You should also look into the Weekly Hard Surface Challenge; its how I got started in Hard Surface.

http://polycount.com/discussion/129938/week-8-the-weekly-hard-surface-challenge/p1

YaboyZay · Feb 2018

AlexRodriguez said:

You should also look into the Weekly Hard Surface Challenge; its how I got started in Hard Surface.

http://polycount.com/discussion/129938/week-8-the-weekly-hard-surface-challenge/p1

Thanks man. I needed to get some more practice on hard surface modeling

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