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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/how-title-ii-goes-beyond-net-neutrality-to-protect-internet-users-from-isps/

I know you all don't like political threads, but this decision effects all of us here.  Think about it, from sharing our work, to our games being corporately regulated to second class traffic unless we pay each provider a fee.  

This effects everyone in the worldr.  Not only will your US sales be effected, but any traffic going through North America destined for you will potentially get routed slowly.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/?org=fp


Want to protest in person?

https://act.freepress.net/go/16882?t=10&akid=6564.8991879.WOELMg



Seriously, this shit is important no matter what your political leaning or lack thereof.

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  • Mark Dygert
    I feel like we'll keep having this battle, until apathy wins and they slip it in under the radar, there are only so many "its time to save the world" calls that people will answer before they tune out.

    The other way I see this going away is if the companies pushing for it, lose so much money that congress stops trying to do favors for them. 
  • oXYnary
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    I know what you mean, but to borrow a phrase, "freedom isn't free." In short, good citizenship requires a constant vigil.  Apathy works against us all.

    Anyhow, just a personal aside.
  • Bek
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    I feel like we'll keep having this battle, until apathy wins and they slip it in under the radar, there are only so many "its time to save the world" calls that people will answer before they tune out.
    Seems plausible — after all isn't that what happened after several iterations of CISPA? Though, thinking your defeat is inevitable probably ensures that is. Or in the immortal words of Phillip J. Fry, you just gotta keep on hoping...
  • sacboi
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    oXYnary said:

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/how-title-ii-goes-beyond-net-neutrality-to-protect-internet-users-from-isps/

    I know you all don't like political threads, but this decision effects all of us here.  Think about it, from sharing our work, to our games being corporately regulated to second class traffic unless we pay each provider a fee.  

    This effects everyone in the worldr.  Not only will your US sales be effected, but any traffic going through North America destined for you will potentially get routed slowly.

    https://www.battleforthenet.com/?org=fp


    Want to protest in person?

    https://act.freepress.net/go/16882?t=10&akid=6564.8991879.WOELMg



    Seriously, this shit is important no matter what your political leaning or lack thereof.

    Well!...that's the Surface Web your average (...but aptly dehumanised labeled) "consumer" is aware of plus woefully ignorant to other hidden thriving realms onion'd within the www. info space Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee "TimBL" initially afforded them en masse.

    Now aside from the Dark Net, which contrary to popular belief is not generally an illicit grubby corner, where shit happens. 

    There is however on the flip side the Deep Net, Invisible Web or Hidden Web. 

    A sub section of the Internet not indexed by search engines and much larger than the consumer version. 

    Deep Web 2015

    "A featured documentary that explores the rise of a new Internet. Decentralized, encrypted, dangerous and beyond the law. The Deep Web, also called the Deep Net, Invisible Web, or Hidden Web is the part of the World Wide Web not indexed by search engines. The deep web was several orders of magnitude larger than the surface web. The majority of the information is hidden or locked inside databases and is growing exponentially at a rate that cannot be quantified. In 2008, to facilitate users of Tor hidden services in their access and search of a hidden .onion suffix, Aaron Swartz designed Tor2web, a proxy application able to provide access by means of common web browsers. Using this application, deep web links appear as a random string of letters followed by the .onion TLD. "

    http://www.documentarymania.com/player.php?title=Deep%20Web

    ...but really regardless of what an individual may believe, attention should be focused upon potentially catastrophic consequences that await all life inhabiting this biosphere, than protesting a right to browse unmolested - go figure?!

  • Deathstick
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    Can't we just amend the constitution in America to always have net neutrality already.. Maybe squeeze it into the first amendment?
  • Zack Maxwell
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    I just now noticed the title of this thread. It may as well be a holiday, since Congress seems intent to #$^% with this pretty much every year now.
    I'm definitely with Deathstick on making net neutrality a constitutional amendment. Not that I think it would actually happen.
  • FULGORE
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    No thanks. It's not a right - it's the FCC having top-down control, and bandwidth being potentially hugely mishandled:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshsteimle/2014/05/14/am-i-the-only-techie-against-net-neutrality/#64a879b970d5

    "FCC commissioner Ajit Pai that the proposed Net Neutrality plan the FCC is considering is 332 pages long. It will not be released to the public until after the FCC has voted. Pai claims this regulation will give "the FCC the power to micromanage virtually every aspect of how the Internet works.

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    "Opponents of Net neutrality point out that broadband Internet is a finite resource, and those who use more of that resource should pay more than those who use less. It obviously costs money for ISPs to build infrastructure and increase bandwidth, and Net neutrality opponents claim that too much regulation would discourage them from making these improvements.

    Critics of Net neutrality also believe that regulations are being pushed through too quickly. They say the FCC hasn’t completed a proper cost-benefit analysis, and there isn’t enough evidence that there is even a need for such regulations."

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    http://davidbyrne.com/journal/bandwidth-and-net-neutrality

    "Net Neutrality means that as more folks use “what’s left,” Netflix movies (or Amazon or any other streaming service) begin to buffer, jitter and eventually deliver pixilated images to compensate. The pipeline isn’t infinite: in the U.S., it’s not even as large as it is in other countries"

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