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[UE4] Proxima - Antique/Sci-fi scene in the clouds

Korann
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Good evening everyone !

Here are some wip shot on my latest scene. I wanted to do an environment that mix a scifi architecture and some antique props and elements. This room is part of a bigger spaceship/station orbiting around an hypothetic planet of the Proxima solar system. It's also where this women spend most of her time. Which I need to model by the way. (Ciri is just here as a placeholder, I swear !)

To composition is pretty much set up. However there is still a lot of work  to do on the dressing. I'm planning to add quite a fix elements that suggest that the place is messy, filling the space with book, clothes, etc ... The background is supposed to be somewhere above the clouds with a big moon or maybe a planet in the right part of the scene.

I'm also looking after feedback on the lighting. Something feels off but I can't really point it up. The carpets have too much contrast in the albedo right now, which I need to fix. The mesh of the curtain is not great and it's shader doesn't really behave nicely.

Any critique is obviously welcome !

EDIT: Final version here, more shots below !







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  • Eric Chadwick
    PNGs ouch.
    http://polycount.com/discussion/63361/information-about-polycount-new-member-introductions/p1#make

    The scene is looking good. Shadows are really black at the back, might want to add another lamp back there. Where is the big blue light coming from?
  • Korann
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    I tought I submited the jpg compressed version. I didn't. Sorry for that ! it's fixed now.

    In term of lighting I was thinking about boosting the light bounces rather than adding a third light source, but the question is open right now. The blue light comes from the light reflection on a planet in the background. Since I haven't started working on that it's simply not there yet.


  • gsokol
    Wow, I really like the idea behind this and you are already off to a great start.

    As for the lighting, does this space have a ceiling?  I only ask because I don't see a shadow for it being cast on the wall.  Whats going on with the furniture/violin?  Is there a greenish light coming from that lamp?  I'm not really digging that green response there.  It looks like you are going for a warm glowy lamp-lit space, while also trying to have harsh sunlight at the same time, and its not mixing well.  

    I really like the long shadows and the low angled directional coming through the window.  It looks great in your first shot, but when you see the back of the room, I'm not too fond of the brightly lit curtains.  I wish there could be a little more indirect light back here.  Maybe angle your directional down a little bit more, so the direct light doesn't cast all the way into the back?

    You mention the shader for the curtains isn't working quite well, what are you trying to achieve there?  What is weird about it?

    Also I can't stop looking at that piano...just a well done prop, love the material response there.


  • Korann
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    Thanks for the kind comment !

    The the ceiling is made of glass, like the bay.It gives me extra space to show the vista. The green reflection comes from the blind on the lamp. I quite like the color, it breaks up the area nicely in my opinion. I had a chat with a few collegues today and one of them suggested that I should move the lamp between the couch and the chair on a small table to use it as a rim light rather than something that light up in the same angle as the sun.

    Not having the back lit means that I should rotate up the light quite a lot, breaking the sunset effect I want on that scene. What's bothering you with the curtains exactly ?

    I want the light to go through the curtains slightly, like on any opaque curtain. The shader is there, but the accumulation of folds makes the result look weird. I'm not happy with them anyway so I'll just redo them.
  • yurid9
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    Interesting idea and I think this is going to look pretty good. Currently, the carpet looks pretty noisy and all the props are blurring with one another. Other than that, can't wait to see what you do with the scene :)
  • Korann
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    Small update with the background.

    I've been strugling quite a lot these day to get the effect I wanted. I ended up rendering my skydome with Vue and adding some elements as planes in the background. The clouds are really low resolution right now because it takes ages to render anything in VUe. I'll rerender them in a highier resolution once I'm happy with what I got.

    I also made some adjusments on the lighting based on the feedbacks I've got here and there.



    Again, any comments and critiques are more than welcome !

  • Korann
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    Rerendered the clouds in higher resolution, which look much better. I also made some color tweaks in the lighting, it's getting there. I still need to balance the albedo of the piano which is way too dark right now.





  • FreneticPonies
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    Wow, nice work with the clouds/background.
  • Korann
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    Korann polycounter lvl 4
    Reviving this thread from the dead !

    I updated the contrasts and the colors a little bit. I'm not sure about having the sun facing the camera anymore, might try something different at some point. In the mean time I started working on the character. Right now it's a full polygonal model and I'm going to start the sculpt soon. (please don't mind the breast she's supposed to wear a bra)

    As usual, c&c are welcome.




  • Korann
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    Trying something a bit different for the lighting. Still heavy wip. Again, let me know what  you think !



  • Korann
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    I think I'm pretty much done with the high poly of thr body. Starting the low poly now as I'm planning to texture it alone without clothes or anything. I want to be able to reuse it later if I want to.


  • Korann
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    Done with the texture of the head for now. I might go back to it later to balance some stuff. I'm bascially using Epic's shader for the skin and the eyes. Hose work pretty well I find. I don't model character so often (almost neer actually) so if feedbacks would be much appreciated !



  • Korann
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    Up this thread from the dead !

    It's been a while since my last update. I've redone the structure of the room as it was causing me too much trouble in terms of composition. The asset placement is the same, but instead of having a circular room I now have a rectangular space which is easier to dress. I've changed the window accordingly, removed quite a lot of carpets and added wooden floor. Everything is still wip of course.

    I've started modeling small props for the dressing. I also need to improve the glass itslef and to add some more details in the vista.



    I've also finished the character. Here is a couple of shots, you can go to my artstation post for all the views https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ar02X


  • Korann
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    Some quick update. Now working on the dressing. There is still a lot to do but it's getting there (really) slowly.



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  • Tetranome
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    Cool! Nice looking clouds. I also really like the carpet collage on the floor :)
    I think a sunset lighting style with rimlights is a great idea. But I guess the moon can do that too eh!
  • Erwannd2d
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    Very nice concept and very well done indeed 
  • Korann
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    Thank you very much guys !
    To answer Tetranome, I had to make a choice between sunset et moon lighting as I don't have enough time to push for both. I stick to the sunset one as it was my initial choice and that the colour scheme felt nicer. I also had to tone down the amount of carpet on the ground as it was too noisy. But I might push their gamma value up a little bit as they don't stick out at all anymore.
  • Korann
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    Calling this one done ! I finally added more dressing like books, clothes on the ground etc ... It was a really fun project to work on but I'm glad it's finished considering the amount of time I've spent on it :>.









  • PogoP
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    Looks really great man! Glad that you finally got it finished!
  • aclund3
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    Wonderful! Love the choice to move on from the initial wall/curtain concept and the final juxtaposition between the old victorian/almost steampunky stuff with the straight Sci-Fi is awesome.
  • kimmokaunela
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    This is awesome. Really liking the mood in this one. Interesting contrast between victorian style and scifi!
  • Chidambhar_Swaroop
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    Looks Great...
  • andrelopes
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  • Sugus
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    Fantastic work Monsieur! Glad to see this finished :)
  • jesusblasco
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    It's so beautiful, awesome work, love your style.
  • Nahlla
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    Beautiful work; a blessing to the eyes!  Looks like so much work, and it looks fantastic, well done :)
  • Finnn
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    Finnn greentooth
    waaaw! love the idea and its looking amazing!
    Please tell me one thing, how did you make the clouds?
  • macoll
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    Great mood, design and all, inspiring ;)
  • Korann
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    Thank you so much everyone for the kind words !
    aclund3 said:
    Wonderful! Love the choice to move on from the initial wall/curtain concept and the final juxtaposition between the old victorian/almost steampunky stuff with the straight Sci-Fi is awesome.
    Actually the scene always had a 360 window with a canopy, like an observation bay sort of thing. The point of the curtain was to cover part of it and suggest that it could cover the window all along. Actually I initially wanted to suggest that the room wasn't supposed to be a bedroom of any sort and have been retrofitted to be just that for the character. That's why I had furniture placed in a really organic way with all the carpets to cover the floor and to make the place feel more cosy. But it was too complicated to imply and the overall result was week. That's when I choose to push for a more nested look for the room, with a square shape, an actual wardrobe and wooden floor. It looks much stronger that way.
    waaaw! love the idea and its looking amazing!
    Please tell me one thing, how did you make the clouds?
    Obviously none of the clouds are physical. I actually used a software called Vue to create an IBL as I saw some artists from 343 were using it to create their awesome skies in Halo 5. It's pretty straight forward and I suggest to check some videos online to see how it's used.

    Edit: I posted the scene on artstation. There is much more shots there so give it a look !
    https://www.artstation.com/artwork/0Vbg8
    https://www.artstation.com/artwork/rLNna


  • Finnn
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    Finnn greentooth
    @Korann that's a really nice tool, I will defently check it out and try making some clouds. I really love clouds, they just looks so damn beautiful a little bit artifical.

    Looked at your piece a second time... and man, it really tells a story. Very inspiring work!

  • Korann
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    Yes they might look a bit artifical, especially the one facing the other way. This render took me already 9 hours. It takes ages to get good resultats on view. It's worth it if you have the processing power, and I wish I had a better processor so I could have gotten something a bit more natural.

    And thanks to point out the story telling, I worked a lot on that!
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