[UE4] Gryffindor Common Room Environment [FINISHED]

Nathan3D

Adelphia said:

And I am finished took a bit longer than i wanted to spend on it but ive learned a lot throughout the project. here is the final images

Hey I was wondering if anybody could help me out here with this archway for the gryffindor common room. how would I get the texture to look like it does in the image below?
Im using a tiling texture for the wall but should i maybe be using dedicated textures for it?
here is mine just now

here is a ref from the game and from the actual thing

Anchang-Style

You probably have to Model the window as a seperate prop and then fit the smooth shape of the window into a rough hole in the wall (so that the rough edge are invisible behind the prop.
Like this:


Then you can do whatever you want with it. Keep a lowpoly version that has enough shape, create a high poly sculpt out the stones, UW the Low poly, paint it with realistic textures and bake normal maps for the stones...or whatever. While you throw a good ol tiling texture on the wall.

Nathan3D

so something a bit like this?
im using substance designer for my materials although the texture is being warped just now is that because of the shape not being right?

Anchang-Style

It is Unwrapped? The problem is, that you have an arc and it's trying to follow it with the texture. This way i don't think you will get a nice "Stone Arch" feel. What you could try to get the arch is, use this arch as kinda the basis and model single stones (do a lot of copy and paste and symmetry, you can follow the image for how the stones should be), throw them into a sculpt app sculpt them so they look like stone, add color ID's on to them and bake them onto a low poly surface. This way you can use different materials / Substances on the stone. Then you don't have to create the bricks in substance but just the basic surface look and color variation.
Maybe easier but maybe not ending up looking as nice is using photoshop and projecting stones andto the arch the way they should (after you baked it out).
Iam afraid there is not really a magic way around this.

DweenieTodd

Basically what @Anchang-Style said. You'll have to do a high to low poly bake of the bricks, then just use base colours to form your brick. By doing a high poly sculpt of the bricks, you'll create the information bricks tend to have (noise, grout etc) 

i mean there's no magic around this I believe. I don't even think straightening the arches UV island would do it, as you'd start getting weird warping, unless you've already straightened the arch piece out? 

mon246

I've nothing to add that would help you but I'm interested in your project. I've always looked for Harry Potter related projects on here but could never find any. May I ask why you're modelling the Gryffindor common room? I'm also modelling a few Harry Potter environments and am currently working on Hagrid's hut as it is seen in the Prisoner of Azkaban. Anyway, I've added this to my favourites. Would love to see more of this when you've got more done.

Nathan3D

awesome thanks for the tips guys ill will try model the stones then sculpt them and bake them down, ill post when im done  
@mon246 Im doing this because i have a love of harry potter and wanted to do a room from Hogwarts, i recently went to the Warner bros studio and managed to take a lot of pictures of the room so i feel like i have a good chance of doing this pretty good

mon246

@Adelphia

Cool! I am also a huge fan. I really loved the environments in the first three games and films. I would love to go to the Warner Bros studio! When you were there, by any chance were you in the room where they have lots of architectural plans for the set buildings? When I'm finished Hagrid's hut I hope to do a tribute to Hogsmeade and to Diagon Alley and have scoured the internet for clear Hogsmeade architectural drawings but couldn't find any.

BTW this is what I've got done on Hagrid's hut

Nathan3D

@mon246 thats looking good so far man  
unfortunately they are right at the end and i had taken over a thousand pictures so my battery's died just as i walked into that room sad times.

I have also started the boathouse from the later movies, will go back to it after i finish this coz i need to change a bunch of stuff.

Nathan3D

how does this look then?

Doxturtle

that looks far better than your previous one

mon246

Looks good to me!

Nathan3D

@mon246 @Doxturtle thanks will keep working on it and showing the progress

Nathan3D

created this for the floorboards

Nathan3D

here is what it looks like in unreal engine

Nathan3D

wee update to show here are some screenshots from unreal4 and a new wooden plank material for the ceiling, not quite happy with the material yet but its coming along any crits?

robochrish

It's looking like a nice start so far! I don't know if it's just me but it looks like your brick normals are inverted. Is this the case?

Maffyland

I realise it's still early days, but one point to take care over is where items join. For example, where the beams intersect the walls, try putting something to suggest the hole, adding a bit of edging around where the beam goes in. If adding detail to the joins themselves is problematic, then some detail to be added on top to disguise poly intersections is another idea.

Nathan3D

@Maffyland any idea on to go about that? A grout looking mesh around it maybe? 

@robochrish I thought that as well but when I check they where fine,  I'm using open GL in substance

Nathan3D

im having a bit of trouble with light bleeding in on certain pieces any idea why this is?

Nathan3D

so i fixed the light bleeding problem

robochrish said:

It's looking like a nice start so far! I don't know if it's just me but it looks like your brick normals are inverted. Is this the case?

it appears that looking further into it they where inverted so i have switched them and made my directinal light static instead of stationary so i dont get the light on the side of the bricks. i was led to believe that unreal used open GL normal maps but it appears it direct X
here is what i have just now.

Nathan3D

Bit of an update for today, i put up some tapestry around the walls

mon246

It's starting to come together. The tapestry adds a bit of atmosphere. I like it!

robochrish

This is looking much better! Can't wait to see what it ends up like

mon246

I just noticed the texture on the fireplace is a different style and doesn't line up with the stonework on the wall? This doesn't really make sense to me as in the films it matches up but looks slightly different due to the effects of the smoke. I think it would look better with the same texture as the walls but with grey or black stains from the smoke.

Also, a couple of mats/carpets on the floor would warm the place up a bit more.

Nathan3D

@mon246
When I was researching the types of materials online and at the Warner Bros studio it said that the hogwarts castle was built with red sandstone and natural stone with the natural stone being things like the ground and fireplaces so thats why I went with a slightly greyish natural stone for that part. Although I think I need to tile it a little more to make stones smaller.

Yea I haven't got to the carpets and stuff yet there will be a large worn out carpet in the middle of the floor. Still need to do the tapestry behind the camera as well

KatieCGI

That looks so amazing! I look forward to seeing the end product

Nathan3D

@KatieCGI
thanks  

here is what i have for today i put a rug down, changed some lighting and put the rest of the tapestries up.

Nathan3D

havnt worked on this in a few days so today i created the windows with proper refraction and the bedroom doors

mon246

Huge improvement. Really starting to look like a scene!

vonBerg

I love your progress! Keep it up!

Nathan3D

Started creating some of the portraits and they are hard to find the right ones. i have recently tried my hand in substance painter so what do yous think? the left frame is from DDO and the right one is from substance painter, i think the right one is better.

mon246

Adelphia said:

Started creating some of the portraits and they are hard to find the right ones. i have recently tried my hand in substance painter so what do yous think? the left frame is from DDO and the right one is from substance painter, i think the right one is better.

Right one is better looking and fits the theme better.

Nathan3D

mon246 said:

Right one is better looking and fits the theme better.

thanks i thought that just wanted a second opinion. 

Nathan3D

bit of an update with some of the portraits and as i said before it was pretty hard to find a way to have the real ones from the films but i managed it. some nice gilded frames and the gryffindor logo on the fireplace that i will be fixing because it doesn't look too great right now but now that im using substance painter i should be able to make it look better.

robochrish

This is looking really good! Adding the pictures and windows is really starting to make it feel like somewhere livable

Nathan3D

just one thing to show for today unfortunately but i think its turned out not too bad

Nathan3D

i have created a couch with a velvet cover and a worn velvet throw but i dont think its that great what do yous think? anything that i can do to make it look better?

mon246

Looks fantastic. I'd advise putting some sort of pattern or design on the blanket over the couch. It just blends in to the couch with its plain red. Anyways keep up the great work. Is that light gas powered? Anyway keep up the good work. When I get notifications on polycount I always hope its another post in this thread!

Nathan3D

@mon246
Thank you very much  
It has a sort of fabric pattern along with a fuzzy Frasnel material but I can see if I can distinguish them a bit more. 

I'm not totally sure about the lights design and what it uses to be honest I'm trying to stick to the films set design as close as I can and that's what it looks like but it does look gas powered with the piping and such

mon246

Adelphia said:

@mon246
I'm not totally sure about the lights design and what it uses to be honest I'm trying to stick to the films set design as close as I can and that's what it looks like but it does look gas powered with the piping and such

The reason I ask is because AFAIK electricity is not used in Hogwarts, as the magic interferes with it. They use mostly candles, torches and gas powered light sources. 

robochrish

This is looking really nice, but one thing that I would point out if that the scuffs on the carpet look unnatural. They look like crosshatched perfectly straight lines and this sort of pulls away from the realism

Nathan3D

@robochrish thanks for the crits  I will be going back over the wear once I have all my objects placed so I can change that when I do that. I thought it pushed the thread lol of the carpet. What would you suggest?  Just like a cloud based brush? 

mon246

Haven't been back here in a while. Just wondering how things are going? Any more content for me?

robochrish

Adelphia said:

@robochrish thanks for the crits  I will be going back over the wear once I have all my objects placed so I can change that when I do that. I thought it pushed the thread lol of the carpet. What would you suggest?  Just like a cloud based brush? 

I would say that it would look more like this https://rugrabbit.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/big/imani_antiques/06-2012/more_images/ladik_5.jpg

or this

http://traditionalrugrepair.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/P4140312.179120808_large.JPG
 
When a carpet is worn it tends to lose the strength in the threads used to create it, rather than having scratches on top of it. Does that make sense?

It's also important to make sure that you are going in the direction of the threads, so straight across side to side, or top to bottom but not diagonally.
I hope this makes sense

Ged

good progress, the only things that stand out as odd to me is the carpet on the floor - it looks massive and low in detail and resolution. The other thing is the paintings being on top of wall tapestries, I know its like that in the reference but its still kinda wierd.

Nathan3D

Sorry guys I have been dealing some progress but slowly been really busy I'll try get some stuff up later. 

I will try work on the rug as well
@Ged in the actual room it is much bigger than what I have but I thought it looked odd so made it a bit smaller and there will be a lot of furniture covering it really so I don't think it will be that big of a problem but I can revisit it once the furniture is down. With the frames I still have to make the chains that they hang from so they won't be floating  

Thanks everyone for the comments

Leinadien

That is amazing, very inspiring. Makes me think we need virtual museums.

Nathan3D

@Leinadien thank you very much

here is what i have just now like i said not too much more but the fireplace is done.

gfelton

It's been really cool watching this project come together, I love the idea and your execution. The only real suggestions I have are to make the stone textures holding up the mantle look a bit less flat. Looks really good either way, awesome job!

Twister3

Also you could get rid of those straight lines of the pillars by the fireplace by cutting more geo into it and altering the silhouette.