New Microsoft Surface Products
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Hey, I've not seen a thread on this yet so I'm just wondering what people's opinions are on the new surface devices just revealed??
The surface book looks pretty sweet, but it does have a high price tag!
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/devices/surface-book
The surface book looks pretty sweet, but it does have a high price tag!
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/devices/surface-book
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been rocking a macbook for the last few years, with a similar price tag, and I think I may have to return to windows... the polish, tech and portability - imagine the hour long seshes in the toilet... :poly124:
they haven't yet confirmed which nvidia card they'll be using and going by the actual size of it, could be a 960M
they did mention, or some website at least, that its graphics card uses 16GB GDDR5 so who knows
looking forward to see the benchmarks when it's released
but really expensive
2,7k for the top version
I was starting to become quite intrigued by the new VAIO canvas Z as well, rf detachable keyboard and better pen, but I think I better get saving for the surface book now instead.
It's not pretty, but you can run the UE4 editor on a surface pro 1 if you want to put scorch marks on your pants. I keep it on mine to do a quick check to see if something looks good or not in-engine, without needing to be at my desktop.
I recon the editor would be serviceable on the book, but probably not ideal.
Looking at the current price of the surface pro 4 its $899.00 in the us store and £749.00 in the uk store, urf.
Yay vat i guess, direct conversion + 20% vat brings it to £700
Not looking forward to the books uk price!
The problem with the cheapo sketch tablet is that it gets REALLY frustrating when you want it to do something and it can't. Or if it's just overall slow feeling. It breaks you out of your groove, especially if you're used to your fast desktop.
I was thinking of getting one since I'll be traveling a bit more and be more on the go soon, and having something I can do my web design/graphic design work on and be able to do 2d animation on would be really great.
I thought compared to Wacom tablets these were a cheapo solution?
( although I am happy that when surface Pro 3 came out that I was then able to get an Asus Slate for $200
I am hoping I can cheat this way upgrading on future iterations but 3 years behind at a fifth of the cost would be nice.
I regularly sculpt on the train, or when I am away. And any solution thats good enough for zbrush will cost money. Or will feel bad, ergonomically.
because I work on site ALOT and I can afford to buy better than a chapo sketch tablet, I have been looking forward to the surface pro 4 announcement for a long time. Finding out they surprise announced something even better with a GPU just made me so happy.
Because I'm a niche case where this is exactly what I need, I would probably pay even more for it :B
I wonder if different price tears come with different GPUs. Or iff you could buy a newer gpu/keyboard down the line.
I want to know why nvidia and all are so cagey on the details.
FWIW i run marmoset on occasion on a mac mini with intel 4000 HD graphics. works alright for a current gen character scene for double checking looks. newer integrated GFX should be a good bit faster, too.
also, all my 3D in blender happens on that machine, too.
as for the surface device. the hinge looks a bit overly fancy to me. like 1st-generation-with-longevity-problems kind of fancy.
Have you ever tried running ue4 or 3ds max/maya? How does it handle those with intergrated graphics ?
sorry no, have not tried any of these on my mini. i did run maya on an MBP for a while though. that one had the older intel 3000 HD graphics and maya ran ok. again, single characters in scenes, game-rez type stuff, not exceeding 300k polygons.
zbrush also works out fine on these machines btw.
it would not be suitable as a workhorse machine but for working a bit on the go it's all fine. i have no experience with the surface models but a macbook would probably run so hot using something like UE4 that it would start to throttle really quickly, integrated or dedicated graphics alike. the fan gets really annoying, too. if you did that in public, people would probably come up and ask to quieten it down after a bit.
i got the surface pro 3 with radial menu for shortcuts, but i wil switch to TabletPCMouse soon
I wouldn't expect desktop performance out of a cheapo tablet. Though you would be surprised how far these things can take you if you work efficiently. It's more than enough for quick sketches.
I picked up my Asus VivoTab note 8 64gb for $375 (CAN) after tax and I can't say I regret that purchase at all. It has a Wacom digitizer. The tracking gets a bit funky around the borders of the screen, but that doesn't bother me cause that's just where menu items are and I don't actually paint there. It can Zbrush like a champ too, as long as you don't poke it while its doing any processing (dynamesh, etc). If only Microsoft would design Windows better for touch screens. They claim they designed their whole o/s to be more touch friendly but they haven't even got the keyboard right *sigh*.
Perfect sketch-pad on the go!
Will touch keys work while the pen is touching the screen? I was under the impression all surface digitizers would shut off touch if they sense the pen close by for palm rejection. Are there apps that get around this?
How would you hold shift and use the smooth tool in zbrush for example with just a touchscreen?
this is exactly what it enables. otherwise the whole thing would be useless to me
Does the key have to be toggled though? And can they be used simultaneously? They have to be toggled with the sp3 don't they?
no it works as it should, as said otherwise it would be entirely useless. but so far it only worked with radial menu, which is an OK solution. By far not as good as artdock was on Wacom Devices. But that said, TabletPCMouse looks great and seems to be able to do the same. Which I will test soon.
Also Radial Menu allows remapping the totally stupid buttons on the pen. I have a proper right click (that doesn't need to tap on the tablet with the nib) and a MMB
Also thank you for mentioning TabletPCMouse, the name is horrible but it looks great!
First hit.
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Looks good, I wish microsoft would develop something like this on an OS level.
I have been reading that the iPad Pro will support digitizer pen and touch simultaneously out of the box and the software will be designed with this in mind, which if done right will be interesting to see. I wonder how their palm rejection will work.