Substance painter 40% off on steam, worth it?

Stinkfoot · Jun 2015

Substance painter is currently ( 16-6-2015 at 13:12 +1 Berlin time) on sale for 40% off. is it worth it? I've checked the features and it looks like an excellent tool for texturing my characters and further utilizing PBR textures.

any thoughts?

gnoop · Jun 2015

Check its EULA. It's for those making less than $10k.

WarrenM · Jun 2015

I highly recommend it. It's my primary texturing tool these days. It's a golden god.

Stinkfoot · Jun 2015

gnoop wrote: »

Check its EULA. It's for those making less than $10k.

ow that's not a problem atm..

Swarm22 · Jun 2015

Substance Designer and Painter are both 40% off currently. It's a flash deal. I'm wondering if I should get it or wait for a bigger discount on a daily. $100 is still a lot.

Clark Coots · Jun 2015

if the sale doesn't go more than 40% will that deal be back on the last day of the summer sale? or are flash deals only chance to get it at 40% off?

skyline5gtr · Jun 2015

Very good questions, I'm comparing coming from Quixel Suite trying to figure out if its worth it

Zack Maxwell · Jun 2015

It's not going to go lower than 40%
get it now if you want it.

ChaosWWW · Jun 2015

I'd actually say Substance Designer is a more useful product if you had to chose one. But both Painter and Designer have been incredibly useful for me, I hardly use Photoshop any more. Worth purchasing even at full price, but if you can get a discount definitely take advantage of it.

Moltar · Jun 2015

I've been waiting a for Substance Painter to go on sale for awhile now (note: wait till Christmas/summer before you buy any software). Words can't explain how amazing and helpful this software is for 3D artists. In my opinion it's far superior to Quixel suite.

oblomov · Jun 2015

Check its EULA. It's for those making less than $10k.

Actually, the limit has been raised to $100k a couple months back. There was still an outdated document that wrote $10k when you installed the application, but it really should have been $100k. It's been fixed now. Sorry for the confusion.
You can read the current EULA here :
http://store.steampowered.com/eula/273390_eula_1

skyline5gtr · Jun 2015

Do you need both to be effective ? seems like you have limited use of painter without designer

WarrenM · Jun 2015

No, painter doesn't require designer. It comes with a selection of smart materials and if you buy some from other people or download them off the net, you'll have plenty.

I mean, Painter is for unique assets. If you're looking to use tiling textures on your stuff then Designer is likely the better investment.

skyline5gtr · Jun 2015

WarrenM wrote: »

No, painter doesn't require designer. It comes with a selection of smart materials and if you buy some from other people or download them off the net, you'll have plenty.

I mean, Painter is for unique assets. If you're looking to use tiling textures on your stuff then Designer is likely the better investment.

I'm primarily looking for asset creation, so that is good to know thanks Warren. Where does 1 find these materials ? Gumroad ?

WarrenM · Jun 2015

Yeah, there's actual not a TON out there which surprised me. I bought some from gumroad .. Pawel has a few great ones I used all the time.

https://gumroad.com/l/UOMLJ

I wish I could provide more info but since leaving Epic my email got dumped and I forget to save that piece of information.

But he's on the forums here so search around, you'll find the links.

skyline5gtr · Jun 2015

Ha understandable, thanks for the help you gave me already sir

Jerc · Jun 2015

m4dcow · Jun 2015

Since I have Painter and Designer, I'm waiting for a further drop on bitmap2material since that will upgrade me to a Substance Live account.

Stinkfoot · Jun 2015

Got painter and I'm already loving it.

Timer's running folks! 11 hours left and counting.

lefix · Jun 2015

How does the live account thing work? and does only designer have an indie version?
Their business model confuses me a little :P

Clark Coots · Jun 2015

Picked up Designer, really excited to learn it... but where to start? I'll be digging around the internet for learning material, but has Polycount compiled a place for Allegorithmic tutorials somewhere on the Wiki?

ZacD · Jun 2015

Allegorithmic has some decent Youtube videos, there's a few guidelines that I like to have.

1. Work in black and white as long as possible, it's quicker/cheaper to generate, and it's less messy to add it all in the end.

2. Try to group nodes and think in layers, it's very easy to get messy with your graphs, but try to think of each effect or look you are going for as their own group or layer. Have a dirt group, small rock group, medium detail group, small detail group, rust group, etc, if any of those groups get big or important enough, you could refine it into it's own node to reuse.

3. I like to start with making a height map for the texture, it helps get your normal map and look established more quickly, and you can use the height detail to drive the rest of the texture.

4. Keep organized, try to keep things non destructive, and expose parameters instead of doing tiny tweaks in the graph.

Scizz · Jun 2015

Deal is over. Managed to scoop up Designer with 29 minutes left.

DireWolf · Jun 2015

Aw looks like I missed it.

I'd want to throw my unanswered question here if you don't mind. How is Painter for hand-paint style? Has it gotten better?