[ZBRUSH] ZRemesher 2 4R7 (worse topology than 4R6 with zguides)

OccultMonk

I understand that the new 4R7 ZRemesher 2.0 Is better for hardsurface topology. But it seems that the results for organic topology are worse than that of 4R6. When I create Guides with the Z-Guides Brush (for example loops around the eyes and nostrils and mouth of a head), ZRemesher 2.0 does not give a very good result. It almost seems to ignore the loops. Playing with the curve strength and adaptive sliders does not seem to make much difference. Only at very extreme settings can I force it, but the results are not very good. (Does not really use these guides). While ZBrush 4R6 gave very useable topology with good poly flow/loops for organic models. Am I doing something wrong? How can I get the same result as 4R6 in 4R7?

Scruples

Bump, I noticed the same thing...

m4dcow

I don't really use ZRemesher, but I remember reading that the P3 patch fixed some stuff, make sure you're up to date.

OccultMonk

P3 Dit not fix it. :-( They seem to have broken the organic auto-retopo in favor for the hard surface auto-retopo. The algorithm of Zremesher 4R6 worked better.

cryrid

It's not just in favor of hard surface; they made other changes to try and prevent the spirals that 4R6 was likely to create. Unfortunately, it's still not quite ideal at the moment.

kunglao

I am experiencing the same problems particularly with a head. For arms and legs R7 sorts the spiral issues that R6 had but for heads it appears worse than R6. Like you OccultMonk I have tried various settings, even using the polygroup controls I do not get the results like with R6 which still needed some manual work.
If anyone has a solid work flow or settings used that would be ace. Although as some people have reported it does seem to be an issue .
Thankfully I only updated a couple of weeks back, For now I will restore my PC which had the earlier R6 and hold off updating until solutions are found.

snakeeaterjns

Same problem brought me until here. Any solution?

OccultMonk

snakeeaterjns said:

Same problem brought me until here. Any solution?

Use the old Zbrush version :-|. 

I have reported this to Pixologic, but if more people report this problem, maybe they will fix it in the next Zbrush versions. 

@kunglao: Please report this problem to Pixologic
@snakeeaterjns: Please report this problem to Pixologic.

snakeeaterjns

OccultMonk said:

snakeeaterjns said:

Same problem brought me until here. Any solution?

Use the old Zbrush version :-|. 

I have reported this to Pixologic, but if more people report this problem, maybe they will fix it in the next Zbrush versions. 

@kunglao: Please report this problem to Pixologic
@snakeeaterjns: Please report this problem to Pixologic.

Thank you . I'll report them.

final_fight

OccultMonk said:

snakeeaterjns said:

Same problem brought me until here. Any solution?

Use the old Zbrush version :-|. 

I have reported this to Pixologic, but if more people report this problem, maybe they will fix it in the next Zbrush versions. 

@kunglao: Please report this problem to Pixologic
@snakeeaterjns: Please report this problem to Pixologic.

Yeah, next version... And when that's gonna happen everyone can guess based on previous occasions... They sure take time polishing ZBrush.

musashidan

final_fight said:

OccultMonk said:

snakeeaterjns said:

Same problem brought me until here. Any solution?

Use the old Zbrush version :-|. 

I have reported this to Pixologic, but if more people report this problem, maybe they will fix it in the next Zbrush versions. 

@kunglao: Please report this problem to Pixologic
@snakeeaterjns: Please report this problem to Pixologic.

Yeah, next version... And when that's gonna happen everyone can guess based on previous occasions... They sure take time polishing ZBrush.

R7 is the last of ZB4, so 5 is next. Going to be huge and worth the wait.