Arabian Street WIP

BucketOfNuggets

Hey everyone what's crackin? Long time reader first time poster. Thought I would start a thread to show my progress and to get some feed back. I am working on a street for a chase scene for the fan made film http://www.facebook.com/cerebusfilm if you want to check it out. So if anyone has any feedback I am all ears

Tobbo

Looks like a good start. I look forward to seeing it progress!

lotet

that is looking super sweet. makes me wanna run around those rooftops with a white hood

BucketOfNuggets

Thanks guys! I have this weekend off work so plan to really smash it out.

razz

The only crit I have at this early stage is how in the third image the road goes down, leaving this big step, just doesn't look right design vise. Looking forward to see more ;]

BucketOfNuggets

The street will be rising through the whole scene, I am a little stumped as to how to apply the buildings and what not to a rising street so I was thinking of using a step like system that levels out at the highest point of the block, if that makes sense haha

Thanks for the feedback

I'll upload another picture with the next batch of stuff to try and show what I mean.

ambershee

What are you references and your specific setting (location / time)? At the moment the street doesn't strike me as being particularly Middle-Eastern or Arabic.

BucketOfNuggets

This was the only image I was given to work off



I have googled many other images though, that is how I have modeled the balcony style objects and the doors as well as the compositions of the buildings.

BucketOfNuggets

Just a quick update to show how I have approached the incline in the market area.


Also have added a few things to the start of the street, not the biggest update. Stupid life getting in the way of my 3d

BucketOfNuggets

Bit of an update, I am not to sure about the road, I need to randomize it more. I can see a pattern in it

Karmageddon

I have to bump this. I just like it too much not to.

Dubzski

Getting some serious Prince of Persia vibes here. Reminds me of the opening cutscene of Two Thrones .

BucketOfNuggets

Ok I think I am done, if anyone sees anything that looks bad or needs adding let me know

I won't be texturing this but when it does get textured I will be uploading for all to see.






The rest are here
http://imgur.com/a/LVS1r

BucketOfNuggets

Here is a fly through for anyone keen to see it.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATS2yGrh7B4"]Street fly through - YouTube[/ame]

sofabound

This stuff is pretty fantastic dude. Keep it up! Can't wait to see it textured.

BucketOfNuggets

Ill keep using this thread as it is for the same project, I had to build the interior of a shop, needing some feedback on it, it just doesn't feel right to me.

Grubber

Great progress.
Waiting for textures!

Oniram

this is shaping up to be very nice. ill stay tuned.

BucketOfNuggets

Hey guys here is the update to the store.



Modeling: John Eyre (Me)
Texturing: Lynne Mills
Lighting: John Chen

Here is are more sets I made after but forgot to update with.






As always would love feedback

Shrike

the models and the scenes look really good together, really nice

Why are you so cheap with the textures ? You make it look like 10 years old CG like that. The lighting is nice, the composition is nice, the assets are perfectly fine, but the texturing kills it. Dont use such terrible low res, it feels part great and part playstaytion 2 game. Dont forget the edge highlights, theyre vital to texturing.
(Looking at furniture mainly) Dont just paste photo textures on stuff.

If you just take a glance at the picture, it looks really great, but if you take a normal look at it, it starts to look like a playstation 2 promotional shot.

BucketOfNuggets

Thanks for the feedback Shrike I will pass it on! I get what you mean though, they kind of look a bit muddy too.

What do you mean by edge Hi lights? I am still really new to texturing so that is why I passed it off. I'm doing a lot of tutes to get up to speed though.

ayoub44

Love that store ! is that real time ?

BucketOfNuggets

Rendered in Mental Ray

RogelioD

wish I would have seen this sooner. Sub'd

Great work so far.

BucketOfNuggets

Thanks RogelioD

Can anyone go into more detail about Hilights and what Shrike was saying?

Shrike

You want to enhance the visual effect of edges by highlighting it with a lighter color.
Usually objects get wear on these places the most aswell

While highpoly modeling gives edges with round corners which reflect light by the form already, you still want to enhance the effect with your texture to avoid a fake look.

If you only have a lowpoly you really need to fake the edge highlights. Thats the main reason people bake
down highpolys to lowpolys, because sharp lowpoly edges just look fake.
Its essential and without it your textures will look wrong in general.

In miniature painting its called drybrushing and imo its the best term for it.

Here is one of the strongest I could find,



It dosnt look spectacular now on that image, but imagine without the lines, it would just be a blue mess without definition.

You usually paint the edge with a lighter color to visualize light, and then at some places you add wear, > scratches, dirt, rust and so on. For example your wood just needs a lighter brown at the edges on your diffuse.

Check some hand painted textures out, they live from drybrushing.
Also care where you paint it, inner edges which would be very difficult to touch usually dont have that, that is where ambient occlusion takes in.

BucketOfNuggets

I get what you are saying. I think some textures might do well with some roughing up but I am not too sure of the edging will work. The geometry is there so that it should be creating its own highlights. Are you able to maybe do a draw over of the scene for me if you have the time? We aren't going for a painted look.

Shrike

Your geometry only generates highlights if you have high polys or lowpoly with baked normals. And in this scene you have lowpolys only it seems, or bad bakes with too sharp edges. Even if you had baked normals, edge highlighting is essential in texturing, realistic or handpainted.
The difference is how strong you do it and how much.




then there is dirt and wear and color variation missing