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Hazardous polycounter lvl 12
Hey everyone,

I just wanted to let you all know, over the past year I've recieved a tonne of mail regarding my questionable choices in art. Many have suggested I shouldnt waste my time with tits and ass models, and most whom I've attempted to explain myself too, have only ended up hating me further.

I've stubbornly fought against the ever-increasing amount of suggestions to curb my enthusiasm towards sexy female characters but I wanted you to be the first to know, that I've finally realised you are right.

Sorry to all the folks I've offended, no more sexy girls from me.

Your pal,

Hazardous.

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  • pear
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    pear polycounter lvl 8
    girls are gross anyway
  • Funky Bunnies
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    Funky Bunnies polycounter lvl 17
    that's great hazardous, your shift in direction to only REAL art real-men is a huge inspiration to me.

    PS - I can't wait to see your morgan freeman! :)
  • moof
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    moof polycounter lvl 7
    Clearly you've totally failed at this sexy girls thing, it's time to move on to more important things like giant weeners on ponies.
  • Autocon
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    Autocon polycounter lvl 15
    YOU DON'T SAY THAT! Don't give into the whining children who will never be half as talented as yourself. I cant even imagine a single one of those people who would bitch about you doing art you enjoy even being in the industry or ever really making it in, so why care what they think?

    You have no need to explain yourself or your art. You should always just keep enjoying what your doing. If they dont like it, they dont have to look at it.
  • Tekoppar
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    Tekoppar polycounter lvl 10
    Please tell me this is just a cruel joke.
  • Hazardous
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    Hazardous polycounter lvl 12
    Autocon: Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words, Its just that seeing the tropes thread, and the many other topics that have come to light recently, combined with a fair amount of hate mail, its really opened my eyes, I've been a total fool, and I'll do my best to think more about not offending anyone in the future.
  • Mrskullface
    I'm proud of you! I was about to say I was starting to get really tired with seeing nothing but girls from you. SUPER PROUD OF YOU!
  • Kurt Russell Fan Club
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    Kurt Russell Fan Club polycounter lvl 9
    This is fantastic news, you chose the perfect day for it.
  • murph
    Well, it's only 1am here and I've already been made a fool! I read through your entire post before I realized the date ;)
  • alifarsangi
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    alifarsangi polycounter lvl 9
    Come On ! don't make me cry on first day of the week ! i am the one who loves and admires ur amazing works ! although whatever decision u make, please don't be emotional to us ! be rational to yourself !
  • Swizzle
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    Swizzle polycounter lvl 15
    Much like Hazardous, I've decided to take a new direction with my work. I can't handle working on characters anymore, so here are a couple of level designs I've been playing around with over the past few hours. Everything's super WIP, but I think I've at least got some good ideas flowing.

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  • Racer445
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    Racer445 polycounter lvl 12
    if only this was serious
  • AdamE87
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    AdamE87 polycounter lvl 11
    I look forward to seeing your beautiful men!
  • MrOneTwo
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    MrOneTwo polycounter lvl 12
    I fucking hate this holiday...

    My part in it : Guys, I'm a walrus!
  • Panadol
    I've actually decided to do the opposite of Hazardous; and from now only make tits and/or ass models. Here is my first attempt at some low poly breasts; c&c welcome

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  • Rockley Bonner
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    Rockley Bonner polycounter lvl 12
    LOl, what? R u serius?
  • uncle
    Almost got me dude, almost got me.
  • Autocon
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    Autocon polycounter lvl 15
    Hazardous wrote: »
    4/1/2013

    Ah I see what I missed now. I guess this is what I get for day drinking all Easter day hahaha
  • firestarter
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    firestarter polycounter lvl 18
    I applaud your cow-tailing to the moral majority. Off to church, hope to see you there!
  • Jeff Parrott
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    Jeff Parrott polycounter lvl 19
    HAHAHAHAHA Perfect Haz! Your post needs to be 3x more in depth though.
  • Andreas
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    Andreas polycounter lvl 11
    Not sure why this needed a thread at all... could only have lead to egotistical waffle like this...
    Autocon wrote: »
    YOU DON'T SAY THAT! Don't give into the whining children who will never be half as talented as yourself. I cant even imagine a single one of those people who would bitch about you doing art you enjoy even being in the industry or ever really making it in, so why care what they think?

    You have no need to explain yourself or your art. You should always just keep enjoying what your doing. If they dont like it, they dont have to look at it.

    Blogpost at best. Maaaaaaybe facebook status ;)


    Hazardous, you shouldn't stop 'because people told you so'. You should genuinely not want to do it because it cheapens your considerable skillset. Someone who has worked as hard as you should not be producing work that looks like Poser art. 'Tits' is not a (particularly good) theme.

    I like your most recent piece. And I'm looking forward to seeing your new direction. Good luck.




    EDIT: Oh. I've just realized what day it is. Thought Haz had finally matured but I guess he's only getting worse. Never mind! ;) Happy April Fools guys, Haz sure got me.
  • CheeseOnToast
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    CheeseOnToast greentooth
    "cow-tailing"?
  • Skillmister
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    Skillmister polycounter lvl 11
    Andreas wrote: »
    Not sure why this needed a thread at all... could only have lead to egotistical waffle like this...



    Blogpost at best. Maaaaaaybe facebook status ;)


    Hazardous, you shouldn't stop 'because people told you so'. You should genuinely not want to do it because it cheapens your considerable skillset. Someone who has worked as hard as you should not be producing work that looks like Poser art. 'Tits' is not a (particularly good) theme.

    I like your most recent piece. And I'm looking forward to seeing your new direction. Good luck.




    EDIT: Oh. I've just realized what day it is. Thought Haz had finally matured but I guess he's only getting worse. Never mind! ;) Happy April Fools guys, Haz sure got me.

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  • gilesruscoe
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    You got me.... bastard.
  • DavePhipps
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    DavePhipps polycounter lvl 7
    Before I saw the date I was wondering how the "hungry bum" would apply to male models :D
  • WarrenM
    Andreas wrote: »
    Not sure why this needed a thread at all... could only have lead to egotistical waffle like this...



    Blogpost at best. Maaaaaaybe facebook status ;)


    Hazardous, you shouldn't stop 'because people told you so'. You should genuinely not want to do it because it cheapens your considerable skillset. Someone who has worked as hard as you should not be producing work that looks like Poser art. 'Tits' is not a (particularly good) theme.

    I like your most recent piece. And I'm looking forward to seeing your new direction. Good luck.




    EDIT: Oh. I've just realized what day it is. Thought Haz had finally matured but I guess he's only getting worse. Never mind! ;) Happy April Fools guys, Haz sure got me.

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  • Steve Schulze
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    Steve Schulze polycounter lvl 18
    Well played, sir.
  • FlynT
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    FlynT polycounter lvl 8
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! wait what? HAHAHAA ;D
  • Zwebbie
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    Zwebbie polycounter lvl 18
    DON'T WORRY CHAPS, I'VE GOT THIS COVERED.

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    I WILL BE YOUR NEW HAZ.

    INFLATE BRUSH, AWAY!
  • slipsius
    Haz, your females are astounding, and so well done. And I totally understand why you did them. But, looking at your recent portfolio that you posted, I do agree with some others. You just need more of a variety. That's the ONLY reason I agree you should do more guys. Diversify your folio. I'd say use some of your older guys, since you say you only did males before. But, they wouldnt be your best work. So do some new ones :) Maybe try a monster or two!
  • leslievdb
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    leslievdb polycounter lvl 15
    about time you had more of this on your portfolio

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  • LRoy
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    LRoy polycounter lvl 10
    Andreas wrote: »
    Not sure why this needed a thread at all... could only have lead to egotistical waffle like this...



    Blogpost at best. Maaaaaaybe facebook status ;)


    Hazardous, you shouldn't stop 'because people told you so'. You should genuinely not want to do it because it cheapens your considerable skillset. Someone who has worked as hard as you should not be producing work that looks like Poser art. 'Tits' is not a (particularly good) theme.

    I like your most recent piece. And I'm looking forward to seeing your new direction. Good luck.




    EDIT: Oh. I've just realized what day it is. Thought Haz had finally matured but I guess he's only getting worse. Never mind! ;) Happy April Fools guys, Haz sure got me.

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  • duoxan
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    Panadol wrote: »
    I've actually decided to do the opposite of Hazardous; and from now only make tits and/or ass models. Here is my first attempt at some low poly breasts; c&c welcome

    aRRegIa.jpg

    hahaha im at work crying from laughter. nice job!
  • Gav
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    @Haz:

    Whether this is an elaborate April Fool's joke or not, one thing you need to be reminded of is that art is indeed "design by committee" - especially when it is your own material, you are not on a job hunt, and are extremely successful at what you do. I mean, great artists on this forum like Andreas did not get to where they are today by doing their own thing and making their own mark. No. Fuck no. They worked hard at general discussion, sharing thoughts on subjects they have no experience in, and by talking - not doing. THESE are the things that make a great artist.

    I'm talking to you as a friend, man. These people that have been ragging on you for years are not speaking out of jealousy that you can do something they wish they had the talent to pull off. No, they are speaking the truth. You need to censor yourself, you need to bend your own personal beliefs to please a vocal minority. While you have spent time working away and perfecting your craft, all the while teaching other artists to follow in your footsteps and actually being a productive member of the community...these people have been developing personal opinions and just talking about the things they would like to do. See the difference? Who's the better person here?

    Try to make everyone happy.

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    Yours in Christ,
    Gav
  • WarrenM
    Seriously Haz, haven't all these years of being unsuccessful drilled the message home yet? You're doing it wrong, man, face it...
  • Malus
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    Malus polycounter lvl 17
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    Well played good sir.

    The delicious inevitability of self righteousness walking triumphantly into the callous back hand of sarcasm was a joy to behold. :P
  • Skillmister
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    Skillmister polycounter lvl 11
    Gav wrote: »
    I mean, great artists on this forum like Andreas did not get to where they are today by doing their own thing and making their own mark. No. Fuck no. They worked hard at general discussion, sharing thoughts on subjects they have no experience in, and by talking - not doing. THESE are the things that make a great artist.

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  • Swizzle
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    Swizzle polycounter lvl 15
    If Polycount had a hall of fame, Gav's post would be the first,last, and only entry.
  • Andreas
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    Gav wrote: »
    @Haz:
    I mean, great artists on this forum like Andreas did not get to where they are today by doing their own thing and making their own mark. No. Fuck no. They worked hard at general discussion, sharing thoughts on subjects they have no experience in, and by talking - not doing. THESE are the things that make a great artist.

    I'm talking to you as a friend, man. These people that have been ragging on you for years are not speaking out of jealousy

    Oh Gav. ;) I got where I am today by refusing to sacrifice my life any further crunching and pushing polys for someone else. I've been in the game and it ain't that glamorous. My last day drawing a wage as a 3D artist began at 3AM coughing up blood from two stomach ulcers I didn't know I had, after working god knows how many weeks 9AM-9PM, through weekends, under a talentless fucktard lead who was burying us all. And yet you and others talk about this industry and your job as if you're working for Doctors without Borders. Try to stay humble.

    You (and a lot of other people) give what we do a little too much credit (making 'art' for business men to truly profit from, not you, on creative projects that don't even come from you). You aren't painting the fucking Sintine Chapel roof, Gav. And neither is anybody else. It's just game art. Tryto stay humble.

    And yes, people who have tried to steer Haz away from this tackiness aren't doing it out of jealousy. They are trying to actually help him grow by offering other avenues he could explore, but, as some other 'fellows' that come along, he refuses to. He is the exact same as all those 'artists' in P&P who refuse to change anything because it's 'stylised'.

    One analogy would be film-making. It's like watching a talented director making pornos when he could actually be making decent movies.

    Anyways, this is (more than likely) a troll thread deliberately created to incite. Not sure why I'm bothering.

    I also don't think that many artists actually PM him as much about this topic as he claims; otherwise you'd see them out here saying the same thing too. All in his head.
    Haz just needs the occasional attention-seek, bless his cotton socks.
  • Justin Meisse
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    Justin Meisse polycounter lvl 18
    Andreas is so humble, he never seeks attention. Can't you see all the time he devotes trying to get Haz to improve!
  • Malus
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    Malus polycounter lvl 17
    "...They are trying to actually help him grow by offering other avenues he could explore..."

    Offering?....Priceless.

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  • Amsterdam Hilton Hotel
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    Andreas wrote: »
    And yes, people who have tried to steer Haz away from this tackiness aren't doing it out of jealousy. They are trying to actually help him grow by offering other avenues he could explore, but, as some other 'fellows' that come along, he refuses to. He is the exact same as all those 'artists' in P&P who refuse to change anything because it's 'stylised'.

    One analogy would be film-making. It's like watching a talented director making pornos when he could actually be making decent movies.
    subject matter is a subjective thing wholly dissociated from quality of work, and in this case the quality of work is very clear (and yes, the styles are variable within this range of subject matter, it's clear on his portfolio). it sounds like you dont want him to make his brand of character because you don't like it, but he isn't you
  • LRoy
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    Andreas wrote: »
    Oh Gav. ;) I got where I am today by refusing to sacrifice my life any further crunching and pushing polys for someone else. I've been in the game and it ain't that glamorous. My last day drawing a wage as a 3D artist began at 3AM coughing up blood from two stomach ulcers I didn't know I had, after working god knows how many weeks 9AM-9PM, through weekends, under a talentless fucktard lead who was burying us all. And yet you and others talk about this industry and your job as if you're working for Doctors without Borders. Try to stay humble.

    You (and a lot of other people) give what we do a little too much credit (making 'art' for business men to truly profit from, not you, on creative projects that don't even come from you). You aren't painting the fucking Sintine Chapel roof, Gav. And neither is anybody else. It's just game art. Tryto stay humble.

    And yes, people who have tried to steer Haz away from this tackiness aren't doing it out of jealousy. They are trying to actually help him grow by offering other avenues he could explore, but, as some other 'fellows' that come along, he refuses to. He is the exact same as all those 'artists' in P&P who refuse to change anything because it's 'stylised'.

    One analogy would be film-making. It's like watching a talented director making pornos when he could actually be making decent movies.

    Anyways, this is (more than likely) a troll thread deliberately created to incite. Not sure why I'm bothering.

    I also don't think that many artists actually PM him as much about this topic as he claims; otherwise you'd see them out here saying the same thing too. All in his head.
    Haz just needs the occasional attention-seek, bless his cotton socks.

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  • Ace-Angel
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    Ace-Angel polycounter lvl 12
    Man, I swear, you guys sometimes make me want to slap some of you with my towel tied to baby seal pup.

    There is a reason people use the "/s" note on their posts, I can't tell if this thread is funny anymore or dwindled down to cats pics status, because people felt the need to ruin a good April's thread :(
  • Justin Meisse
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    Haz, just try making a spacemarine or military fellow, you might find out you like it! There isn't enough spacemarines or military fellow being made, you'll finally be able to get some real work!
  • EarthQuake
    Gav wrote: »
    @Haz:

    Whether this is an elaborate April Fool's joke or not, one thing you need to be reminded of is that art is indeed "design by committee" - especially when it is your own material, you are not on a job hunt, and are extremely successful at what you do. I mean, great artists on this forum like Andreas did not get to where they are today by doing their own thing and making their own mark. No. Fuck no. They worked hard at general discussion, sharing thoughts on subjects they have no experience in, and by talking - not doing. THESE are the things that make a great artist.

    I'm talking to you as a friend, man. These people that have been ragging on you for years are not speaking out of jealousy that you can do something they wish they had the talent to pull off. No, they are speaking the truth. You need to censor yourself, you need to bend your own personal beliefs to please a vocal minority. While you have spent time working away and perfecting your craft, all the while teaching other artists to follow in your footsteps and actually being a productive member of the community...these people have been developing personal opinions and just talking about the things they would like to do. See the difference? Who's the better person here?

    Try to make everyone happy.

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    Yours in Christ,
    Gav

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  • Gav
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    Gav quad damage
    HAHAHAAH.....you bastard.
  • EarthQuake
    I love this thread.
  • ceebee
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    ceebee polycounter lvl 14
    *The sound of literally everything going over Andreas' thick head*

    Holy shit this thread needs more Gav and The Wire gifs, those are great.
  • ScudzAlmighty
    So does that mean it's gonna be all Jon Polito busts all the time? With fiber mesh body hair?
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