Id have to give up on everything I love to use the rest of my existence to fulfill a minor fantasy. If i could someday return or communicate with the meatbags back home then its a definite yes
The whole idea of going into space is only awesome if you can go from planet to planet fighting aliens, saving worlds and laying space bitches. Bring on the Mass Relays!
As soon as they build something worth seeing over there I'll consider going. A casino or something, I don't know.
I don't get the whole legendary thing. What good is being legendary and dead? The whole point of being legendary is to get to enjoy your new legend status.
To be honest, Mars is just too plain. There is far too much to see here on Earth for me to even consider wanting to move to another planet for the rest of my life. I think the internet ruins anyone's faith in humanity, but reality is, it's a beautiful world we live in.
I don't really understand the need to move to the next new thing when we already have so much to live for here.
How would they Terraform over there? wouldn't they need insects so It would be you and a bunch of bugs in a tent or do the bugs come last?
Or do they go the Hydroponics route.
Interesting never the less, It is about time.
If I could come back sure, you will be home sick and start freaking out probably, planet withdrawal.
I don't get the whole legendary thing. What good is being legendary and dead? The whole point of being legendary is to get to enjoy your new legend status.
It's legendary in itself, we're pretty unimportant in the long run on earth and thus there's absolutely no single more important for the human race than to make new permanent homes in the universe.
Not being passionate enough about mars is part of the problem why more funding isn't going into the space-program.
How would they Terraform over there? wouldn't they need insects so It would be you and a bunch of bugs in a tent or do the bugs come last?
Or do they go the Hydroponics route.
The first hypothetical step involves filling the atmosphere with carbondioxide, probably by the same effective green-house methods we use on earth, eventually raising the temperature a few degrees which results in the (probable) ice deposits in the caps melting and releasing more into the atomsphere.
Not being passionate enough about mars is part of the problem why more funding isn't going into the space-program.
I somewhat agree, and disagree with this. The problem isn't lack of interest. The problem is that we have so much to fix here on this planet, things of far greater importance than moving to a planet that doesn't even naturally sustain our lifeform. If we put the billions upon billions of dollars that would be going into a Mars population project, we could easily feed all of Africa. We could put that money into renewable energy sources, fund schools, education, which in turn would profit us all, and could, in turn, most likely launch a Space Program decades ahead of schedule.
I somewhat agree, and disagree with this. The problem isn't lack of interest. The problem is that we have so much to fix here on this planet, things of far greater importance than moving to a planet that doesn't even naturally sustain our lifeform. If we put the billions upon billions of dollars that would be going into a Mars population project, we could easily feed all of Africa. We could put that money into renewable energy sources, fund schools, education, which in turn would profit us all, and could, in turn, most likely launch a Space Program decades ahead of schedule.
I doubt that. And even if we could, it's futile. Earth is unsustainable even with our current population. If you "fix" the current problems that, to put it bluntly, act as population control, we'll be in an even worse situation.
I somewhat agree, and disagree with this. The problem isn't lack of interest. The problem is that we have so much to fix here on this planet, things of far greater importance than moving to a planet that doesn't even naturally sustain our lifeform. If we put the billions upon billions of dollars that would be going into a Mars population project, we could easily feed all of Africa. We could put that money into renewable energy sources, fund schools, education, which in turn would profit us all, and could, in turn, most likely launch a Space Program decades ahead of schedule.
I agree.
NASA takes up .48% of the US national budget, less than HALF of a percent and they are answering some of the most important questions humans can think to ask.
So far the War on Terror has cost America 5 TRILLION dollars (that's not including the war on drugs and other crazy useless things they waste their money on) and if you add to the fact that money was borrowed and is being paid back with interest then we are looking at a lot more.
IF we had put even half of that money into education, scientific research and space exploration we wouldn't be talking about a handful of yahoos going to die alone on a desert planet.
NASA takes up .48% of the US national budget, less than HALF of a percent and they are answering some of the most important questions humans can think to ask.
So far the War on Terror has cost America 5 TRILLION dollars (that's not including the war on drugs and other crazy useless things they waste their money on) and if you add to the fact that money was borrowed and is being paid back with interest then we are looking at a lot more.
IF we had put even half of that money into education, scientific research and space exploration we wouldn't be talking about a handful of yahoos going to die alone on a desert planet.
1) Do have to dress up like Buzz Light year for the rest of my life?
I'm not going to lie, that would be cool.
...for a month or two but is something I could do here. Not to mention that whole "eyes sucked from their sockets" thing could be a real downer if the sheriff starts thinking he is a comedian.
Besides I remember the biosphere in the 1990's being a colossal cluster-muck.
Check out this documentary...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWikCCfHJw"]Bio-Dome Official Trailer #1 - Pauly Shore Movie (1996) HD - YouTube[/ame]
I think it would depend on my age, available tech, and maybe how long the base has existed.
Age: I would probably want to be old enough to have experience everything I want here.
Tech: I want to communicate with people on earth (and internet of some sort).
Base existence: I want someone to work out the bugs before moving in
NASA takes up .48% of the US national budget, less than HALF of a percent and they are answering some of the most important questions humans can think to ask.
So far the War on Terror has cost America 5 TRILLION dollars (that's not including the war on drugs and other crazy useless things they waste their money on) and if you add to the fact that money was borrowed and is being paid back with interest then we are looking at a lot more.
IF we had put even half of that money into education, scientific research and space exploration we wouldn't be talking about a handful of yahoos going to die alone on a desert planet.
Priorities, we have them... all mixed up.
It sounds like you disagree then? Or my sarcasm radar is off today?
It sounds like you disagree then? Or my sarcasm radar is off today?
I agree that we need to take care of the Earth and solve a lot of the problems we face here before we reach out to other planets.
Getting our priorities straight so we can be in a position to invest in science, education and space exploration requires that we learn some lessons and solve some big problems first, that I agree with. The part that we differ is that I think at some point in the future we should look past our belly buttons and reach out to other planets. But it will be hard to get there if we don't solve some pressing problems here on Earth.
Energy production.
We currently use finite resources that could be a significant factor in our planets demise (only a handful of idiots think its not). Even if it is not, we will still run out at some point.
Education.
Our global approach to the education system is one size fits all and does not foster innovation or creativity. Rather it makes great button smashing automatons that feel entitled to their stupidity.
America is downing in debt because of bad choices it made.
It has the largest army on the planet yet hasn't won any of its wars of choice in 50-60 years, yet they continually CHOOSE to engage in costly unnecessary wars, never learning their lessons.
America needs to work off the debt, learn their lessons and focus on important things that matter which is hard because...
The American economy has been built around facilitating the military which needs war to keep things rolling. Very 1984 as we start to heat up relations with North Korea and Iran. That needs to change it needs to be centered around science and innovation that makes our lives better, not worse. We need a peaceful economy not a war mongering economy.
We can't move forward until we fix those problems and honestly I think that is going to take 1-2 generations to work through...
I don't have time to read the whole OP link, are they asking for any warm bodies to volunteer for a one way Mars trip or is this more of a hypothetical question?
lol, yeah, I'm sure multiplayer gaming would be out. I just want to be able to access info from earth, and communicate with people. That's where the age comes in. At 70, I probably won't be gaming much anymore
How much new technology and scientific discoveries did we get from trying to go to the moon?
As far as fixing problems here before anything else. Why can't we do both/multitask?
Agreed, almost all of America's technological advancements came from the space program. I wish our military spending had a rate of return close to what we get out of NASA.
BUT I don't think we can just forget reality and blaze ahead like we don't have problems or that those problems won't impact anything like education and scientific exploration. I don't think your "escape plan" should be to turn hell into paradise while we turn our paradise into hell.
I don't see it as all or nothing, on/off thing, we don't have to wait until they are solved before we can start talking about reaching out to other planets. But we need to realize where we are at and where we need to be.
It's not a switch that we flip but a slider that we have to move from one end to the other. The only way to move the slider is to solve some of the problems because they are a huge diversion of resources.
How do you get creative scientists who can move the ball forward if our education system is designed to break kids?
How do you invest in science when we are drowning in war debt?
How do you do anything if we run out of energy?
Sure we can multi-task but because of those problems, things like space epxloration get .48% attention, but are you happy with that? Lets move the slider to 48% or beyond. Solving those problems will free us up and give us more time and resources.
Well, take one vote off the yes and put it on the no one then. I thought the question was: would you go to mars, as in,at all, for a brief visit. Then.. I probably think I would. Then again, considering the risks and training etc. that would be involved, perhaps it should be a maybe...
But visiting mars with the intent to live in a small pod thingie and whatnot? Heeeell no! :x
Perhaps before they do this they should try doing the same in the middle of the sahara desert or something, bleh
As said though.. I can't really help but not to take this thing seriously.
First step is to restart the core, assuming that's even possible. Totally sounds like a sci-fi flick, but it'd need to happen to restart volcanism and tectonics and all that stuff that makes life at the surface possible. No moving core means no magnetosphere means there's nothing to stop solar wind from slowly blowing away any atmosphere we create.
One idea I've heard thrown around quite a lot is directing large asteroids or comets at the planet, in the hope that striking at a sufficiently low angle will put a lot of energy into the mantle, which will eventually make its way into the core and get it liquid and convecting again.
Interestingly enough, we might already have one such comet on the way:
There are a bunch of theories on how to transform the planet. I've seen it suggested that it just needs the atmosphere restored, and would be possible by releasing massive amounts of carbon dioxide. It depends on how active the core may still be (if at all).
Just a run down for those who don't want to read, a company by the name of Mars One is planning on taking people to Mars for permanent settlement. Volunteer basis, all you have to be is healthy body and mind, and not care to much about leaving everything you have behind, ie no one married unless you just really don't like your family, and no one who's even mildly attached to earth. They will give you all the training for it, their more just looking for the right type of personality, more than anything. The process to let people volunteer will start some time this year.
PS: Financial part, They will broadcast everything, use the income from ads to send a new batch of settlers every 2 years, this costs approximately 4 billion per ship. The Olympics make 6 billion in ad revenue for whatever company is broadcasting it, so if they get anywhere close to that the money is taken care of, all parts have already been promised by various company's, including spacex and several other less well known companys currently working in the space industry.
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Id have to give up on everything I love to use the rest of my existence to fulfill a minor fantasy. If i could someday return or communicate with the meatbags back home then its a definite yes
The whole idea of going into space is only awesome if you can go from planet to planet fighting aliens, saving worlds and laying space bitches. Bring on the Mass Relays!
For the treats.
Hahahaha.
I don't get the whole legendary thing. What good is being legendary and dead? The whole point of being legendary is to get to enjoy your new legend status.
I don't really understand the need to move to the next new thing when we already have so much to live for here.
Or do they go the Hydroponics route.
Interesting never the less, It is about time.
If I could come back sure, you will be home sick and start freaking out probably, planet withdrawal.
so porn sites take about 20 minutes to load. i would recoment having a 3tb hdd packed with porn for every martian, or they kill each other
It's legendary in itself, we're pretty unimportant in the long run on earth and thus there's absolutely no single more important for the human race than to make new permanent homes in the universe.
Not being passionate enough about mars is part of the problem why more funding isn't going into the space-program.
The single most beautiful thing in our solar system is basically just a ball of burning hydrogen, consider that.
The first hypothetical step involves filling the atmosphere with carbondioxide, probably by the same effective green-house methods we use on earth, eventually raising the temperature a few degrees which results in the (probable) ice deposits in the caps melting and releasing more into the atomsphere.
I'd see it making more sense when you're really old or have experienced enough of earth to actually want to see a whole new world.
I somewhat agree, and disagree with this. The problem isn't lack of interest. The problem is that we have so much to fix here on this planet, things of far greater importance than moving to a planet that doesn't even naturally sustain our lifeform. If we put the billions upon billions of dollars that would be going into a Mars population project, we could easily feed all of Africa. We could put that money into renewable energy sources, fund schools, education, which in turn would profit us all, and could, in turn, most likely launch a Space Program decades ahead of schedule.
I doubt that. And even if we could, it's futile. Earth is unsustainable even with our current population. If you "fix" the current problems that, to put it bluntly, act as population control, we'll be in an even worse situation.
NASA takes up .48% of the US national budget, less than HALF of a percent and they are answering some of the most important questions humans can think to ask.
So far the War on Terror has cost America 5 TRILLION dollars (that's not including the war on drugs and other crazy useless things they waste their money on) and if you add to the fact that money was borrowed and is being paid back with interest then we are looking at a lot more.
IF we had put even half of that money into education, scientific research and space exploration we wouldn't be talking about a handful of yahoos going to die alone on a desert planet.
Priorities, we have them... all mixed up.
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I'm not going to lie, that would be cool.
...for a month or two but is something I could do here. Not to mention that whole "eyes sucked from their sockets" thing could be a real downer if the sheriff starts thinking he is a comedian.
Besides I remember the biosphere in the 1990's being a colossal cluster-muck.
Check out this documentary...
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Age: I would probably want to be old enough to have experience everything I want here.
Tech: I want to communicate with people on earth (and internet of some sort).
Base existence: I want someone to work out the bugs before moving in
It sounds like you disagree then? Or my sarcasm radar is off today?
Can you imagine the latency?
Getting our priorities straight so we can be in a position to invest in science, education and space exploration requires that we learn some lessons and solve some big problems first, that I agree with. The part that we differ is that I think at some point in the future we should look past our belly buttons and reach out to other planets. But it will be hard to get there if we don't solve some pressing problems here on Earth.
- Energy production.
- We currently use finite resources that could be a significant factor in our planets demise (only a handful of idiots think its not). Even if it is not, we will still run out at some point.
- Education.
- Our global approach to the education system is one size fits all and does not foster innovation or creativity. Rather it makes great button smashing automatons that feel entitled to their stupidity.
- America is downing in debt because of bad choices it made.
- It has the largest army on the planet yet hasn't won any of its wars of choice in 50-60 years, yet they continually CHOOSE to engage in costly unnecessary wars, never learning their lessons.
- America needs to work off the debt, learn their lessons and focus on important things that matter which is hard because...
- The American economy has been built around facilitating the military which needs war to keep things rolling. Very 1984 as we start to heat up relations with North Korea and Iran. That needs to change it needs to be centered around science and innovation that makes our lives better, not worse. We need a peaceful economy not a war mongering economy.
We can't move forward until we fix those problems and honestly I think that is going to take 1-2 generations to work through...As far as fixing problems here before anything else. Why can't we do both/multitask?
lol, yeah, I'm sure multiplayer gaming would be out. I just want to be able to access info from earth, and communicate with people. That's where the age comes in. At 70, I probably won't be gaming much anymore
BUT I don't think we can just forget reality and blaze ahead like we don't have problems or that those problems won't impact anything like education and scientific exploration. I don't think your "escape plan" should be to turn hell into paradise while we turn our paradise into hell.
I don't see it as all or nothing, on/off thing, we don't have to wait until they are solved before we can start talking about reaching out to other planets. But we need to realize where we are at and where we need to be.
It's not a switch that we flip but a slider that we have to move from one end to the other. The only way to move the slider is to solve some of the problems because they are a huge diversion of resources.
How do you get creative scientists who can move the ball forward if our education system is designed to break kids?
How do you invest in science when we are drowning in war debt?
How do you do anything if we run out of energy?
Sure we can multi-task but because of those problems, things like space epxloration get .48% attention, but are you happy with that? Lets move the slider to 48% or beyond. Solving those problems will free us up and give us more time and resources.
but seriously.. its just a pipe dream look at the sponsor list and the contributors.. ehh what ? lol never going to happen..
Im happy staying on earth Im too old to go prancing off into space
But visiting mars with the intent to live in a small pod thingie and whatnot? Heeeell no! :x
Perhaps before they do this they should try doing the same in the middle of the sahara desert or something, bleh
As said though.. I can't really help but not to take this thing seriously.
One idea I've heard thrown around quite a lot is directing large asteroids or comets at the planet, in the hope that striking at a sufficiently low angle will put a lot of energy into the mantle, which will eventually make its way into the core and get it liquid and convecting again.
Interestingly enough, we might already have one such comet on the way:
PS: Financial part, They will broadcast everything, use the income from ads to send a new batch of settlers every 2 years, this costs approximately 4 billion per ship. The Olympics make 6 billion in ad revenue for whatever company is broadcasting it, so if they get anywhere close to that the money is taken care of, all parts have already been promised by various company's, including spacex and several other less well known companys currently working in the space industry.
ref:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_One
Thats the run down.